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[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s because there is a large, internally-polled segment of the Pennsylvania electorate who are Jewish and sympathetic to Israel.

Harris can’t afford to not court them.

I have no doubt she vehemently dislikes Bibi and would wish to cut aid.

I hope you are right. But, without evidence (if there is any, please share it), this might be wishful thinking. You might just be a more moral person than Harris. I might be being extremely unfair, but it doesn't seem impossible for an elected official to be willing to sacrifice the lives of innocent people in a country without American voters to gain power.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I think there have been some "leaked" info to reputable journalists how both Biden and Harris pretty much despise Bibi at this point. I think if you look at it in the aggregate in how they pushed for the ceasefire (as opposed to Trump speaking with Bibi to actively undermine it), in her comments after meeting with Bibi shortly after becoming the presumed nominee following Biden stepping down — there is a clear tonal change from, say, 6-months-ago even. So yeah, I think her hands are pretty well tied.

Either way, the reality any sane person can understand is that there are much better odds we see movement from Harris than we do from Trump.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago

Either way, the reality any sane person can understand is that there are much better odds we see movement from Harris than we do from Trump.

I completely agree with that. I admit to being impatient for change now, because innocent people are dying now. It is sad that elections (and electorates) get in the way of such important moral principles.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And everyone conveniently forgets that Biden did try to stop aid to Israel earlier this year. Congress blocked it. Is he trying hard enough? No probably not (I don't claim to be an expert in middle east geopolitics, it is possible that the situation is an even more thoroughly fucked Gordian knot than it appears), but he did try. And the alternative this November thinks what he is trying is "too tough" on Bibi.

[–] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Did he try? Biden could have cited the Leahy laws any time he wanted, and proclaimed that he beleived genocide was occurring. He did not do that. So I dont beleive he was trying. I think he was pretending.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Do you understand how that works? There are exceptions specifically carved out for Israel, which require Blinken to initiate that process.

[–] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you understand that Blinken is a member of the presidents cabinet and the president can fire anyone in his cabinet if they go rogue from his wishes?

Okay, then what? Israel gets weapons from their other allies and we lose any leverage we do have. It's almost as if this is a complex geopolitical issue, in fact so complex that "bringing peace to the West Bank" is a well established meme for an impossibly difficult task, and simple solutions have consequences not obvious to the layperson.