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He got me to read the Manifesto and would have hours' long debates with our social-democratic roommate and now this. It's really shaking me up a bit.

He is on the whole defeatist 'nothing will fundamentally shake the imperial machine so might as well pick the wardog with better domestic policies' tip. I want to get through to him but I am getting stuck.

For example:

i also refuse to not vote my conscience but i figured this time its not like doing this abstract process to pick if id prefer -100 points vs -200 points is gonna matter that much if i genuinely believe itll even be slightly better under kamala i might as well

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[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wouldn't try to "defeat" his defeatism, but show his defeatism can't infect you. He wants to feel better about capitulating which is why he is trying to bring you into the fold. Whatever he chooses to do, that is on him. His argument isn't going to convince you, and say as much.

Besides, if he is so convinced for top-cop will bring better domestic policies he should go doorknocking, because 50% of the electorate does not vote. If he really thinks her domestic policies will work, he should have no problem convincing non-voters.

And just for the sake of the bit...:posting: :posting: :posting:

Banging the sign again...

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