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[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 51 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

You can bypass the requirements since yeah, they were always artificial. I believe Rufus has an option when creating Win11 install USBs to remove the TPM and other requirements.

But then again, it's nice, because all I need to make sure Microsoft doesn't secretly update my Win10 machine in the night to Win11 is to turn off the TPM in the BIOS.

[–] trespasser69@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But then you won't receive any updates if you use unsupported hardware to run Win 11

[–] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Well, not gonna get updates on 10 either, so is same-same

[–] john117@lemmy.jmsquared.net 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You can bypass the requirements since yeah, they were always artificial.

I think bypassing these checks would eventually render your PC vulnerable? for example, bitlocker support being void for computers that relies on TPM 2.0

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There is no home-user need to run bitlocker. There's dozens of alternatives, that do not rely on TPM, that are just as effective, and that you really should be using anyways since they aren't controlled by M$.

[–] john117@lemmy.jmsquared.net 6 points 1 month ago
[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

If you need encryption, veracrypt probably still works.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You can bypass the requirements

Not all of them. Windows 11 stopped booting with Update 24H2 on CPUs that don't support the Instruction POPCNT. But that's only an issue for really old CPUs like Intel Core 2 Duo and AMD Athlon 64 X2

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For a bit more context than "really old": I had an Intel Core 2 Duo in 2009.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Another angle: Those were some of the first dual-core x86 processors, released 2006 and 2005 respectively. (Intel had the Pentium D as its first in 2005).

I don't remember which I had for sure. I'm leaning more towards Core 2 Duo. It was my first PC, I was 12 and built it with my father.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I also got my first computer around then. I saved up for ages and bought the first gen Intel MacBook with an Intel Core Duo (2 cores, no hyperthreading). I still have that laptop somewhere... It blew my mind it could run Windows, and Windows laptops couldn't compare at the time.

[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 month ago

Rufus has that option, I've used it myself to update to Win11 because I didn't have a motherboard with TPM at the time.
Also wanna mention, the reason I updated was mostly because I thought Win10 was kinda ugly and I think Win11 was a huge update in that regard and also because of security reasons, since Win10 won't receive any more updates in the near future. At the end of the day, I can count on one hand how often I boot Windows in a year (I almost exclusively use Linux), so I don't really care about all the Win11 bullshit anyway.