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Twitch streamers Frogan, Vio, Denims, Capri all banned on Twitch for making fun of shitty Israeli hummus
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this post was submitted on 21 Oct 2024
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Two weeks out from the election it would be a terrible strategy to intentionally deplatform the largest leftist pipeline on the internet, especially considering the potential to radicalize scores of disillusioned liberals
If would also give Ethan and destiny exactly what they want, which is to silence all pro-Palestinian voices
Hasan's strategy of largely ignoring Ethan and using the drama as launching pad to educate on the crimes of Israeli apartheid is driving Klein up the wall, the man is spiraling
Replacing that with an online hunger strike just isn't efficient or likely to be effective in any way
lol Hasan with Hezbollah strategy of not responding to provocations and keeping cool at all times.
I'm starting to realize how much money and viewership Frogan, Vio, Denims, and Capri are about to lose out on from their month-long bans
I never said anything about Hasan going dark. I said not streaming on Twitch. He can stream in TikTok, Instagram, or YouTube.
Hasan won't be getting 70k-200k views on election day streaming on TikTok, Instagram, or YouTube
Twitch is his platform, you can't just transfer an entire audience to other platforms overnight, it takes years to build up, having the platform is simply more important than making a well-meaning moral gesture that'll be forgotten in a month
Why exactly is covering electoralism more important than solidarity with pro-Palestinian voices being silenced by Twitch over racist lies?
You're just projecting that these people, who he actually knows and talks to, want him to go offline, and that he's refusing them.
Listen, just say you want your slop. I'm sure they want to be unbanned, too. Should anyone try to do anything about that, or should we just do whatever allows you to tune into Hasan on Twitch still?
I think you're naive if you think Hasan not broadcasting would commute their ban in any way.
Just say you care more about your slop. Is that so hard?
Because educating and agitproping a shit ton of disillusioned liberals on Palestine who are tuning in for the election is more important than online brownie points
Who is going to educate anyone when everyone pro-Palestinian is banned?
Well Hasan isn't banned, which is WHY he shouldn't ban himself
Once again, why can't you go watch him on YouTube or TikTok? Just say you care more about your slop. Is that so hard? "I care more about watching my himbo on Twitch than standing up for Pro-Palestinian voices". No wonder BDS doesn't go anywhere in the US. Do you just like Sabra too much?
Once again, he has no political audience on YouTube or TikTok, Hasan is a pipeline, pipelines don't work when they ban themselves for the sake of meaningless gestures that only appeal to guilt ridden liberals
Hasan can stand up for pro-Palestinian voices far better by continuing to do what he's doing, which incidentally is pissing off scum like Ethan and Destiny
What you or I think of the "slop" doesn't matter in the least, all that matters is the millions of disillusioned liberals coming into contact with it and learning a thing or two, that is a far superior expression of solidarity than self-defeating nonsense that surrenders the discourse to the right-wing
A leftist with a major media platform is a precious thing, how on earth you don't recognize that is frankly beyond me
The ADL is targeting Hasan now. He ain't gonna have a platform for long if no one fights back against what's happening right now. "Millions of disillusioned liberal" he fucking streams to less people than a D-list conservative AM talk radio host. Do you know where most of the "disillusioned liberals" first come into contact with Hasan? On TiKTok and YouTube clips, those sites where you claim he has no base.
So Hasan should beat them to it and do their work for them because "everyone banned = solidarity" he's fine where he is and frankly I don't believe any of the banned streamers would be impressed if he sabotaged himself the way you want him to
Frogan is literally a friend of his, if he continues to stream then we can assume she's fine with it, because duh, she's not known for being obsessed with pointless optics
Also Hasan's "base" on TikTok is exclusively generated by thirst trap clips and dog videos while his YouTube videos are literally replayed segments from his Twitch stream
Oh, she's his friend? You mean like his friend QTCinderalla, who Ethan made a video making fun for QT for crying about internet perverts making AI deep fake nudes of her, and Hasan partner with him after that? If Frogan came out and said she would appreciate solidarity from Hasan, you would just chastise her an call her naive, too, because you care more about your slop.
nah, he should simply stream Bisan's documentary and any other available Gazan-filmed footage 24/7 without physically being online or saying a word
I like this idea
Obviously your post is in bad faith and honestly disgusting. You see a post where people are being silenced for supporting Palestine and you are trying to shift the blame to someone you don't like a personal level. You saw pro-palestinian and pro-lebanese voices getting silenced, 2 of these people have family being bombed, and you try to make this into an opportunity to stir up drama. You are gross.
All of the people who were banned are friends of Hasan and have direct communication with Hasan. None of the people who are banned would want Hasan to stop streaming. They like that he reports Israel's crimes to thousands or millions of people. It is very likely that Hasan is talking to them right now to try to help them out and possibly also talking with twitch to try to get rid of the bans.
Hasan is a huge fucking money maker for Twitch. Maybe their biggest. I'm not shifting blame to Hasan. These accusations are bullshit, and Hasan should go on strike and make it hurt for Twitch. No one else on the platform is running 30+ minutes of ads a day to 40K+ viewers and bringing in $35K+ a month in subs. If he didn't have that sort of power and impact on their operations, then they would have banned him for 30 days, too. Do you think the ADL didn't ask for it?
EDIT: And he's about to enter his biggest money making period for twitch with the electio
EDIT: By the way, @dead@hexbear.net, since I forgot initially, go fuck yourself for me "bad faith". You care more about your slop watching Hasan than doing literally anything to actually stand up against Twitch and these fucking racist zionists. Calling me bad faith when when you are about to give Twitch $7.99 or watch their ads as a reward for banning Pro Palestine voices. Nothing is stopping Hasan from going to YouTube or Instagram or TikTok, plenty of other streamers already stream there.
This isn't how strikes work lol. One streamer withholding labor doesn't have leverage in this way. Twitch would either ignore it or just punish him. All this would do is silence the biggest pro-Palestinian voice on Twitch.
There's about to be only one pro-Palestine streamer on twitch at this rate. How long will that last?
Hasan isn't some normal streamer. The revenue he brings in for that company probably covers a couple staff's monthly salaries. He alone makes ~$250K/month, and because he hits the $100K threshold in a couple weeks, that means twitch is also making $250K/month off of him.
Well, a lot less if he voluntarily self-bans.
He can go stream on YouTube, TikTok, or Instagram for 30 days.
The idea has some tactical merit, I think it's a discussion he should have with his peers on the platform imo
I just cancelled my Turbo subscription over it and I selected other and told them that if they are going to treat Arabs and Muslims in a racist and unfair manner, then I don't want to give Twitch my money. I'm not a streamer but that's the most I can do right now. I'm leaning toward a 30 day boycott as well.
i don't think their statement was at all unreasonable.
He could at least cover all of Frogan + co's Twitch salaries for the month they are banned similar to a strike fund. (edit) It is his podcast cohost from leftovers who is running this smear campaign so he does have some responsibility here especially since he made money from leftovers working with Ethan.
I'm (delusionally) hoping that he's trying to catch KKKlein in something that is provably slanderous so he can sue him, but I'm not holding my breath. At least 3 of the people banned have a Patreon for their podcast. I'm gonna sub in the morning since I cancelled my Turbo subscription. I don't know if Denims has like a Patreon or something.
Well hopefully even if he doesn't do anything, people get together support them while they are banned, it's really just the Palestine version of the red scare, they are only being disciplined for being pro Palestinian, I don't think the higher ups at twitch are dumb enough to think they are actually antisemitic or whatever they are being accused of.
It's great to know that support for standing up Pro-Palestinian voices goes about as deep as the extent to which it doesn't personally interfere with slop consumption. Hasan could stream on multiple other platforms, y'all just have prersonal loyalty to a company that banned Arab streamers over bullshit charges, instead.