So now due to the inaccuracy inherent in floating point calculations, instead of invisibly nudging things a few millimeters in the wrong direction, teleports people hundreds of feet out of their ships into space if they bump into a physics object, ladder, elevator, etc.

This is what happens when an ideas guy with no technical knowledge is making technical decisions.

[–] G0ldenSp00n@lemmy.jacaranda.club 39 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This is not even true, they rewrote the engine to support native 64-bit precision to let them fit large spaces, they didn't just make everything small. They basically employ all the people that used to make Cryengine since Crytek went out of business, so the engine they are building is actually pretty good.

[–] Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

I am engine developer, but even to this day you can clearly see Cryengine 3.x issue in star citizen.

They simulate zero-g areas as a Cryengine underwater map. You routinely see stuff floating as if in water even on planets with gravity.

You can also witness strange bugs that confirm the size issue (that they made everything extremely small in a Frankenstein version of a Cryengine map); one example would be your footmarks suddenly becoming massive.

The completely fucked up physics in sc (e.g. tanks bouncing like beachballs) is also a legacy of Cryengine 3.0.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Classic, the person who doesn’t know what they’re talking about is SO sure that they know the truth. So much so they’re out here correcting people and handing out false info.

so the engine they are building is actually pretty good

Keep living in a false reality pal. I’m sure you k or so much more than the engine dev who replied to you.

How much $$ have you wasted on star citizen lmao

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago

To make astronomically large spaces fit in the game engine from 2009, they made everything infinitesimally small.

In fairness, when Star Citizen first went in to development CE3 was a modern engine.

[–] nailbar@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago

This is what happens when an ideas guy with no technical knowledge is making technical decisions.

If you're talking about Chris, he's a coder too, and wrote some of the entiry container system for the game.

I'm not sure where you're getting your info about them scaling everything down and that being the cause for wonky physics, though.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Jesus fucking christ, that was their fundamental approach?!

... Did they ever come anywhere close to a dynamic server model, with dynamically sized in game zones being handled by dynamically changing server clusters, dependant on player count in an area?

I remember making some comments in a thread in the main SC forums about it almost a decade ago that were basically to the effect of: that's almost certainly impossible to pull off with enough fidelity / low lag to actually work in a real time, absurdly open world shooter game,, but if they could pull it off it would basically be the greatest achievement in game networking history.

[–] perslue@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

After 10 years they increased the per server population from 50 to 100, but don't worry server messing soon TM.

So no.

[–] limitedduck@awful.systems 12 points 3 weeks ago

Meshing tests have gone up to 2000 and the shards that were left on overnight were 300-500. The current evocati build of 4.0 has meshing enabled, just limited to 100 for now

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Wow.... I'm pretty crap at making decisions, but like... not that crap 😅

That's like an impressively bad choice