this post was submitted on 19 Oct 2024
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
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let's watch an unreliable narrator get sympathy from a bunch of lowlifes primed to project their own axe to grind towards a community that excludes their toxic asses
If you have information that contradicts OP's narrative, by all means, share it. Otherwise you're just trolling.
Bigotry? When? I didn't say anything bad
Your comments were all deleted and I trust the admins of .ml more than a day old account that was banned instantly for Rule 1 violations after trying to take over a comm.
Did you take screenshots?
"I'm gullible towards people in a position of power, once they say that they're communists."
I'm a communist too. (Seriously) Trust me, you should go lick a cactus.
Serious now. You don't even need to trust me, or anyone here. Just pay attention to
.ml
modlogs and take your own conclusions.Also, when sharing shit in the dunk tank, remember rule #1.
Not really. I'm framing what he said in a different way, to highlight how stupid it is to trust = be gullible towards the .ml admins more than someone random banned by them.
I think that both of us know that you're lying.
I'm not blind to the red scare going on. But I'm not blind to you all using it as an excuse for every single thing.
And it is clear why they're doing it. Since there's some red scare going on, you kids are using it as an excuse for everything and a bit more. Specially because it's a give-and-take here.
Also, I am a year old lemm.ee user. You can check my account too. You can check modlog of my account too. Most of the time my post get removed by me or some other mod because I accidentally post them twice(It was jerboa error or sometime I post to different community). Even, I have some conversation over !badposting@hexbear.net, !technology@hexbear.net and !arestraightsok on hexbear.
I don't have screenshots. Sadly :( but you can see them on Modlog I guess.
There's no contradiction between complaining about having one account banned and cross-posting with another.
So cut off the crap. You aren't fooling anyone here.
And I'm calling bullshit on the stated reason why
.ml
banned OP. More on that later.Epistemically speaking the burden of the proof falls on both, since you're "conveniently" omitting that you didn't just "cast doubt" towards OP's claims - you also did your own claims there, by implying that the ban was to exclude [ipsis ungulis] "their toxic asses" from the community. (Whatever "toxic" means.)
On a moral level though? OP is defending themself. Have you ever heard about presumption of innocence?
In both cases, you still need to back up your claim. Now at least try to pretend to be a decent person, and do it, instead of running again with tail between legs.
My sides went into orbit. That's specially hilarious coming from someone who shows blatant gullibleness towards the reasons stated in the .ml modlog.
But let's roll with it. Contrariwise to your assumption = bullshit, I don't trust OP's narrative due to lack of critical thinking skills. I trust what OP is saying here because it's extremely consistent with what I've personally observed as a former .ml user who used to mod two comms there:
The .ml admin team, as a team*, has the same reading skills of a potato, is often prone to witch hunting and assumptive behaviour (consistent with this case), and uses "rule 1" (bigotry) and "rule 2" (unwelcoming behaviour) as catch-all for "we want a bullshit reason to get rid of this poster". And it never admits when it fucked up.
If you want evidences of that, just go dig on the defederation of ani.social, where the admin team distorted the concept of child sexual abuse material to [unnecessarily] justify it. Or I can come up with the modlog of one of the comms I used to moderate there. Your choice.
*I'd gladly give you names. But I don't know if it's allowed here.
[Note for other users: since the other user is simply grasping at straws with argumenta ad hominem, and there's zero valid argumentation, I'll have my fun at his expense.]
"Oh noes! How does someone DARE to disagree with Our Holy King AntiOutsideAktion? They must be stupid!"
...or perhaps I'm intelligent enough to not fall for your obvious bullshit. Not that this is some achievement, because I bet that even a dog could do it.
If my verbosity deeply offends your precious, oh-so-precious sensibilities and your entitlement to abridged content, well... I don't care.
Now let's see if you have some actual argumentation or if you'll keep whining [yes] this shitty ad hominem. (Onwards "AAH")
Nope, it's still AAH.
And bossing me around to "waaah! shut up! shut up!!! ~~I'm going to cry if you don't shut up!~~" is ineffective, by the way.
I.e. you were using a non-descriptive weasel label that can be used to justify everything and nothing at the same time, to whine at LW users and me, because you have the same intellectual honesty of a hypothetical child of Elon Musk and a genderbent Spez, and can't back up your claim.
But no, something must be wrong. People aren't laughing at your shitty arguments because they're bloody stupid. No - it must be because they're stupid!
Oh look, the Musk x Spez child never heard about moral values. ...and suddenly your babble makes a lot of sense.
"Again, I'm not calling you a fucking moron frivolously. You dare to disagree with me, even if reality magically bends around my belly button and makes even my inane and immoral shit become true, As if By Magic®"
AAH still ongoing... *yawns*
Yeah, nah. The word "gullibleness" is registered at least in Wiktionary, WordHippo, bab.la, and the spelling corrector that I'm using.
Next time that you want to prescribe against the usage of some specific word, at least make sure that the word isn't actually valid. Otherwise you'll keep making a fool of yourself. Although... by this comment, it's clear that you're willing to be the laughing stock of everyone here, right?
But hey. Let's pretend, for a tiny moment, that your prescription held some merit here. Ah, my bad if my L3 English offends your sensibilities! I forgot that Lemmy is supposed to be the WASP e-Lebensraum, and that you're expected to have native tier proficiency! Mayocide is threatening me and I must fight against it!
Yeah, I've already noticed that you're braindead. You don't need to reinforce it.
Finally, you found something else than argumenta ad hominem! I'm so proud of you!
And it's still a fallacy. Changing goalposts - since the bullshit claim that ani.social contains CSAM is too stupid even for you, you're now claiming that it's a "paedophile instance".
Stop making shit up. Not even the individual .ml admins agree with each other about it. It's just that one is too stubborn to admit that he was wrong (he does the same all the time in LG), and there's another [not in the linked conversation] clapping to what the stubborn one does.
(Blame still goes to the admin team as an entity.)
You do realise that, if you did this in your own home instance, you'd be correctly banned, right? You're supposed to disengage without arguing. (Or trying to, in your case.)
That without even considering the blatant linguistic prejudice that you showed in this comment.
"You could've gone to sleep without that." - local saying.
No, I'm not conflating both things.
Depending on the way that the insults are being used, they do count as argumentum ad hominem. Basically when you dress them as counter-argumentation, in order to defend a point - like that user is doing, there's exactly fuck zero argumentation, the whole thing boils down to "u're coment is wrong because ur a ass hat lol lmao", to the point that my answer is... well, simply shitposting in return.
What doesn't classify as ad hominem is shit, for example, like you're doing now. You're being like a 12yo who discovered their ability to call others "u poopy head lol lmao", but not really using ad hominem since you aren't trying to dress it as the argument.
In other words: contrariwise to your assumption, yes, I understand the difference. And it is still argumentum ad hominem.
Hey, It's not worth it in the end. We don't need to defend anymore. But Thanks for your support.
Whenever a hexbear user is involved in the debate you know they are gonna be on the wrong side of it.
Shout out to all the .ml accounts downvoting this comment 😂