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Google is weakening ad blockers as part of their MV3 extension standard and this will trickle down into all Chromium browsers. Built in ad blockers lack features compared to uBlock Origin as well.

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[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)
[–] kautau@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

As someone who uses Vivaldi, which has a significant number of power user and customization features, the fact this is no longer a thing is fucking bonkers to me

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/compact-mode-workaround-firefox#:~:text=Firefox%20Last%20updated:%206/6,https://mzl.la/3JM0ViX

I can turn on an unsupported flag to make the UI a little cleaner for me

To me, it’s wild that the browser for the user decided to deprecate an option like that. Since they dropped XUL support I have very few options on customizing my browser outside of a theme or just writing my own CSS

From there, I’d just point to:

https://vivaldi.com/features/

Firefox pulls in like 500 million dollars a year from Google. Barely any of those features exist in Firefox

I started with Firefox. I used it from day one, when it was an experiment coming out of the Mozilla suite.

I want to use it day to day so bad

But it’s become “how do we chase chrome”

And occasionally they get wins like this. And it no longer feels like

“How can we be best?”

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

You can customize the Firefox UI with CSS, if you're looking for really advanced customization capabilities.
I've made a one-line theme as my 'compact' mode of choice, where URL bar and tabs are all on one row, but you can find lots of pre-made themes out there.
See !firefoxcss@lemmy.world for more info and help.

And well, you shouldn't compare Firefox and Vivaldi from a monetary side.
Mozilla develops their own browser engine, which is really important for the web, whereas Vivaldi only really develops that customizable UI. If Google stops publishing the source code of Chromium, Vivaldi is dead in a few months.

[–] CynicusRex@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Have I got a pleasant surprise for you: Zen Browser is to Firefox what Vivaldi is to Chromium: a feature-rich powerhouse.

[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

It looks really good, not quite as good as Vivaldi but hopefully it gets there. One thing that bothers me is the CPU requirement, that is bonkers, you can't run a browser if you don't have a decently modern CPU?

[–] echo@lemmings.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)
  • It's not super simple to setup multiple, completely separate profiles like it is in Chrome
  • I never, ever visit google.com while I do visit gmail.com at least daily. Yet, when I type 'g' the suggestion is always google.com
  • I visit m.fark.com on my phone quite frequently. Firefox on my phone randomly decides I want to do a google search for 'm.fark.com' instead of visit the site
  • I don't want the recently closed tabs to be tracked and listed, yet there is no way to turn that off
  • If the menu bar is displayed the the first browser tab is left aligned. If the menu bar is turned off then the first browser tab is indented for no obvious reason.
  • I don't think I can clear my history without it closing all of my Firefox instances and making me reopen everything.

There's no one thing that is a show-stopper... just little annoyances.

It's not firefox's fault, but I still use music.youtube.com and google hangouts and there's no option to treat them like standalone apps like there is with chrome.

[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You have way more requirements than me!

For profiles, from memory it's --profile-manager

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 3 points 2 months ago

about:profiles

[–] yoasif@fedia.io 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think I can clear my history without it closing all of my Firefox instances and making me reopen everything.

That's not true - are you using always private mode?

[–] echo@lemmings.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, I'm using the 'Forget about some browsing history' button. You can selectively remove some entries just from history, but that still leaves them in your recent tabs list. If you just want the last 5 minutes of browsing gone then you have to do the rewind and that closes all tabs/instances.

[–] yoasif@fedia.io 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why not just open private browsing windows if you don't want your browser remembering those pages? Are you deciding afterwards that you want to forget those pages?

[–] echo@lemmings.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are you deciding afterwards that you want to forget those pages?

Frequently, yes... There's also some pages/content on sites where you have to be logged in. Yeah, you could go private and login, but that's just more steps. I just want to hit a button and have it nuke the last 5 minutes of my browsing without closing my current tabs/browsers.

[–] yoasif@fedia.io 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not trying to be obtuse here, but why are you pruning your history in the first place? Is someone auditing your browsing history? I'm personally not interested in removing my browser history for the most part - and certainly not frequently enough to notice this limitation.

[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 months ago

I think I clear mine like once a year

[–] echo@lemmings.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's mostly from clicking links on Lemmy... sometimes the content isn't what I would expect or there isn't enough information to even have an expectation before clicking. After clicking there are sometimes things that pop up that I don't want in my history. Another common use case is that a new porn site will pop up in the Lemmy feed and I don't want to see it. In order to block it I have to visit the page. So after I block the page I clear my history.

[–] yoasif@fedia.io 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Probably simpler to just "Forget" the site from the site's context menu in the history sidebar.

[–] echo@lemmings.world 1 points 2 months ago

Hmmm... maybe. It would still be easier to just forget the past five minutes without actually closing whatever I have open in the browser. I also still wish I could just tell it to not track closed tabs at all.

[–] Zerfallen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

For me, it's mostly that the Android app doesn't have a tab bar, even on tablet (just a stretched out phone ui), and i want a browser i can sync across all my devices, so that issue with the tablet ui is enough for me to use a different browser (the amazing Vivaldi) everywhere.

[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago

I prefer the DDG browser for android.

[–] hinterlufer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

MS Teams does not work properly on Firefox for example (I'm forced to use it once in a while for work). Same with other web-apps that often don't function correctly.

On Android Chrome manages to stay open while multitasking while Firefox will close the tab 90% of the time requiring reloading the page. That's especially annoying during check-out or logins when I need to switch to a 2FA app.

[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 months ago

Ah teams. Yes, yuck.