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My father is convinced Elon is an idealist but I'd like to show him he's been misled

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[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I still think Twitter was just a fuck up on his side

Else it would be A+ psyop role playing and looking at all those bright minds, I don't see a possibility for them acting accordingly to a sinister plan.

I just want to make clear, that I don't think it's some kind of dark deep state issue, but much more a systematic issue, caused by Imperial capitalism - not saying you implied it, I just wanted to clarify

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

“Deep state” is actually a useful lens through which to view bourgeois democracies, it’s just nothing like the far right’s unhinged conceptualizations of it.

Michael Parenti, Dirty Truths

Those who suffer from conspiracy phobia are fond of saying: “Do you actually think there’s a group of people sitting around in a room plotting things?” For some reason that image is assumed to be so patently absurd as to invite only disclaimers. But where else would people of power get together – on park benches or carousels? Indeed, they meet in rooms: corporate boardrooms, Pentagon command rooms, at the Bohemian Grove, in the choice dining rooms at the best restaurants, resorts, hotels, and estates, in the many conference rooms at the White House, the NSA, the CIA, or wherever. And, yes, they consciously plot – though they call it “planning” and “strategizing” – and they do so in great secrecy, often resisting all efforts at public disclosure. No one confabulates and plans more than political and corporate elites and their hired specialists. To make the world safe for those who own it, politically active elements of the owning class have created a national security state that expends billions of dollars and enlists the efforts of vast numbers of people.

Aaron Good, American Exception: Empire and the Deep State