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[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 89 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

All Harris had to do was to even pretend to be progressive, but she had to jump on the ghoul train in order to impress 7 columnists. Why do they think that Negraponte and Cheney are good endorsements?

The dems were on a slight roll when they chose to do what the 'left' told them by replacing Biden and choosing Waltz for VP, but then decided to double down to pander to the right.

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 44 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Capturing the donor class is far more important than getting votes. That’s why Citizens United exists - to make sure that politicians will always prioritize the donor class.

This is the one chance the Democrats have to become the new Republican party thanks to Trump burning bridges with all its traditional bourgeois base. It would be stupid not for them to take the opportunity.

[–] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They can capture the donor class behind closed doors. This move reeks of DC staffer conventional wisdom

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Why closed doors when the voters don’t even matter to them? It’s a rebranding phase - the Democrats have to make it explicit to their new donors. You know, make them feel welcomed.

There is also no need for a “secret conspiracy” here because when politicians make their public statements, they are just talking to the donor class. This has always been the case. No need to hide behind anything when the voters don’t matter to you.

I don’t understand why people still keep trying to twist reality into fitting what they want to see, when everyone here knows deep down, the Democrats and the Republicans have always blatantly make statements without taking the voters into account. If this hadn’t been the case, public pressure and protests would have worked. But we all know they haven’t.

You are not that important. Only the top 1% matters.

[–] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

Voters matter for the mandate, not for the policy. You're conflating the two. Votes don't change policy but the reason Dems are freaking out over 3rd parties and sending lawyers to purge from ballots and doing such a media blitz for Kamala against Trump is because they need the mandate from voters, especially in the swing states. There is always an aspect of doublespeak in public statements for both the donors and the voterbase, as well as backdoor and personal meetings to court donors. Saying they don't need voters makes no sense; they only need a certain margin of voters but they still need them in order to be given the mandate for their wing of the political establishment to take power.

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 38 points 2 months ago

Bribers. They bring war profiteering bribers.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 37 points 2 months ago

It really is one of the most incredible unforced errors of all time.

[–] HamManBad@hexbear.net 37 points 2 months ago

Her sister is married to an Uber executive. Her inner circle is a buch of people deeply involved with McKinsey, major banks, the Ford Foundation, etc. She is personally deeply embedded in the donor class, it's not even about appeasing them, it's the fact that she IS them

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s the donors, it’s always the donor money that does this to them.

[–] Tom742@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago

Exactly. They’ve siphoned off a lot of GOP donors and see that as a continually valid strategy

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Considering how unhinged Wehrmacht Waltz is I don't think that was a roll... but then again the bar is in hell

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As far as I can tell Walz's one good point is that he doesn't personally seem to have China derangement syndrome.

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are we talking about the same guy? The dude claimed to have been at Tinyman square for the "massacre" (later redacted) and intentionally married on the 5th anniversary for political brownie points. He's not completely deranged (ie. constantly spewing blood libel and marching to WW3) but it's a low bar.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah, that low bar is what I mean, most dems trip right over it.

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Not even pretend, she could've just given no comments and people would've filled in the blanks themselves. Instead she's very, very clear that her administration will just be 4 years of Republican policies.