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[–] Boredom@hexbear.net 56 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

I stopped paying attention to the presidential elections for obvious reasons, apparently the current story is that Trump is promising to unleash the alien and sedition act to round up foreigners. Due to American being a common law country, we may have camps by next christmas.

[–] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 45 points 1 month ago

He needs to stop giving Democrats ideas

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Please get away from the lathe, there are already concentration camps at the border. How much more evil are USians going to be?

Things are going to get so bad so quickly, I pity any POC unfortunate enough to be in the US.

Edit: "progressives" will abandon those same immigrants at the mercy of this act like they did Palestinians and black Americans unfairly prosecuted by kamala.

[–] newmou@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Boredom@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Look up Operation Wetback, there is definitely a chance.

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It’s never going to happen.

If what they say about 11 million illegal immigrants in the US is true, then the toll of the economy is going to be extremely heavy, not to mention the resources it would take (physically impossible) to deport 10+ million people.

The 1950s was a very different time for America, when it was an industrial powerhouse coming out of the war economy of WWII with very strong labor backbone to support its industries. No such condition exists in today’s America.

Trump is selling a dream to his supporters that can never be realized. At least the Democrats are smart enough to destroy the European economy through Ukraine so they can import European refugees into America to replace the deported immigrants, if the plan were to go ahead, just like what happened after WWII.

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If what they say about 11 million illegal immigrants in the US is true, then the toll of the economy is going to be extremely heavy, not to mention the resources it would take (physically impossible) to deport 10+ million people.

Wasn't the Holocaust a financial drain on Nazi Germany? They still did it. Never doubt evil.

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Slave labor (including those in concentration camps) made up a quarter of Nazi Germany’s labor force during the war, where it was a key component fully integrated into the war economy allowing large corporations (the familiar names e.g. Thyssen, Krupp, Bosch, Siemens etc) to utilize these labor.

I don’t know what America’s plan is for deporting these immigrants but the labor force needs to be replaced somehow. Right now, these immigrant labor are already fulfilling their function as intended under neoliberal capitalism, which benefits the Wall Street financier class.

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

You got me there, I was thinking of some of the death camps when I made my comment.

I'm still going to believe that USians are awful enough to support this or make excuses for it. Even if it is expensive, they'll convince themselves that it keeps costs down in the long run. Or saves the country.

They'll find an excuse, they always do.

[–] Boredom@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

Prison labor is slave labor. All they need to do is criminalized states that made marijuana legal aka blue states.

[–] newmou@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

Not a bit. It's real.

[–] Boredom@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When I say common law, I mean so lomg as the supreme court says it's okay, the government can just default to any super old precedent even if it was supposed to have been functionally upended by later laws. Also of course there are all the cold war contingencies you are not supposed to know about.

[–] FungiDebord@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I think putting this at the feet of the genius of the English/American Common Law is misguided. There seems to be plenty of precedent for providing due process protections for established, naturalized aliens, which should otherwise guide a precedent-respecting common law court.

From Cornell's gloss on the Court's gloss of the Constitution's treatment of Aliens w/in the US:

In various opinions, the Court has suggested that at least some of the constitutional protections to which an alien is entitled may turn upon whether the alien has been admitted into the United States or developed substantial ties to this country.

See Dep’t of Homeland Sec. v. Thuraissigiam, No. 19-161, slip op. at 2 (U.S. June 25, 2020) (stating that “aliens who have established connections in this country have due process rights in deportation proceedings” ); United States v. Verdugo-Urquidez, 494 U.S. 259, 271 (1990) ( “These cases, however, establish only that aliens receive constitutional protections when they have come within the territory of the United States and developed substantial connections with this country.” ); Landon, 459 U.S. at 32 ( “[O]nce an alien gains admission to our country and begins to develop the ties that go with permanent residence his constitutional status changes accordingly.” ); Kwong Hai Chew, 344 U.S. at 596 n.5 ( “But once an alien lawfully enters and resides in this country he becomes invested with the rights guaranteed by the Constitution to all people within our borders.” ); Johnson v. Eisentrager, 339 U.S. 763, 770 (1950) ( “The alien, to whom the United States has been traditionally hospitable, has been accorded a generous and ascending scale of rights as he increases his identity with our society.” ); Yamataya v. Fisher, 189 U.S. 86, 101 (1903) ( “[I]t is not competent for the Secretary of the Treasury or any executive officer, at any time within the year limited by the statute, arbitrarily to cause an alien who has entered the country, and has become subject in all respects to its jurisdiction, and a part of its population, although alleged to be illegally here, to be taken into custody and deported without giving him all opportunity to be heard upon the questions involving his right to be and remain in the United States.” ).

My intuition is that even if the due process rights recognized above were read narrowly by the Court to be procedural rather than substantive, I think in a practical terms this would make an undertaking of denaturalizing and removing established American aliens prohibitively costly (it just would not be practical to provide sufficiently fair process for millions of people).

I'm not saying that Trump/Miller won't be able to do this. But they will be able to because the Court, with its jurisprudential drift towards natural law- inflected Originalist interpretation, has and will be abandoning stare decisis (see Dobbs, overruling Casey, which, other than being the abortion case, was the Court's articulation of its own stare decisis guardrails) and will be looking at cases, when it sees fit, as a matter of first impression. This is an abandonment common law principles, a terrible devolution towards continental, "civil" law barbarity.

[–] Boredom@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The incorporation of the bill of rights was a long process that can be easily anulled

[–] FungiDebord@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Boredom w all due respect: that's not really responding to my post, and, no, it would not be easy to get rid of the Bill of Rights: formally it would new Constitutional amendments, absolutely impossible, and insofar as you mean that the Court might make the protections vacuous, it would be abandoning totally it's role as a Common Law actor; it would be acting by unprecedented, judicial-legislative fiat.

[–] Boredom@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorporation_of_the_Bill_of_Rights

They don't have to do am amendment, they just have to turn to old precedent stating that it only applied to the federal government.

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

He praised that program back in 2015

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago

There are border concentration camps filled with refugees and migrants. It can absolutely happen.

[–] SaniFlush@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

If that happens, who the fuck is even going to stop America? Nobody on earth has the balls to try. I hate it...

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

More Democrat fear mongering to whip squishy headed lefties into line