this post was submitted on 11 Oct 2024
120 points (100.0% liked)

the_dunk_tank

15923 readers
3 users here now

It's the dunk tank.

This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.

Rule 1: All posts must include links to the subject matter, and no identifying information should be redacted.

Rule 2: If your source is a reactionary website, please use archive.is instead of linking directly.

Rule 3: No sectarianism.

Rule 4: TERF/SWERFs Not Welcome

Rule 5: No ableism of any kind (that includes stuff like libt*rd)

Rule 6: Do not post fellow hexbears.

Rule 7: Do not individually target other instances' admins or moderators.

Rule 8: The subject of a post cannot be low hanging fruit, that is comments/posts made by a private person that have low amount of upvotes/likes/views. Comments/Posts made on other instances that are accessible from hexbear are an exception to this. Posts that do not meet this requirement can be posted to !shitreactionariessay@lemmygrad.ml

Rule 9: if you post ironic rage bait im going to make a personal visit to your house to make sure you never make this mistake again

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
 

https://xcancel.com/harrisonjaime/status/1844724867892985957

Hilariously bad strategy. Most americans dont even know there are third party options. Congrats on giving her free publicity?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] duderium@hexbear.net 49 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If they’re doing this, Jill Stein is a serious problem for them.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago

Their internal polls must be awful

[–] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

they've been sending SuperPAC funded lawyers to try to purge 3rd parties from ballots in key states (as if that won't just generate more spite votes against them lmao "democratic party" my :donkey: ). They are genuinely afraid of their own losing the working class margins they rely on as they fight over the ever-shrinking bourgeois and petty-bourgeois with the republicans, because with their entrenched interest and donor base (which is in camaign-finance competition with republicans and their bourgeois and petty bourgeois backers) they cant actually move left without breaking in half. Which is what we should all try to force on them by starving them of the margins that they need from us if they ever want political power again; our leverage against the electoral duopoly to expose and rupture the intractable contradictions of democrat party moribundity and big-money entrenchment in conflict with their actual base (including the 35-50% who dont even vote anymore).

This is what I've been saying to those people here who say "she's probably going to win because trump x y z"


the democrat campaign themselves aren't as sure as these people saying that are about that, and they show it in their actions. We should prove to them they are right to be afraid and force them into the consequences of their untenable existence and redundancy in the face of the working masses who still believe in bourgeois liberal democracy. This is the way to make them prove to the masses what we all already know about them and be broken for it


force them if they ever want political power again to openly align with republicans instead of doing 95% of the same policies as the republicans and capitulating to them the other 5% of the time so that next election they can say "vote for us because we're not those guys! only we can save you from those guys we regularly call our good friends!;" or otherwise force the ruling class to float a progressive "labor" reformist party to capture workers and lumpenized voters from falling into the continually rising 3rd parties especially socialist parties like the PSL.

If the ruling class doesn't float this party and just joins in coalition with republicans, it's possible dual power situation as the broad masses of workers don't have any illusions about the open-fanged republicans and would radicalize quickly and swell the ranks of the PSL and other left wing and socialist parties and organizations. If they do float that party, This would cause the democrat party to split in half, with half of the establishment joining republicans and half joining reformist progressive party, which would alienate that floated party's left wing by "democrat-izing" the party with the same politicians they joined to get away from, and move that left-wing contingent into more radical politics with us as our agitation will have been predicting this exact outcome.