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Shipments of military-capable hardware expose a China-sized loophole in Western sanctions.

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[–] 1chemistdown@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ll hold my breath until it happens

[–] cassetti@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean even before the war, my business has intentionally started moving away from any manufactured parts or materials made from that part of the world for a variety of reasons (cost, quality control, and ongoing tensions).

I personally avoid any products made in that country as best as possible, and it feels good knowing that China is no longer the largest trade partner with America. I know it's impossible to entirely avoid Chinese made components currently, but I feel like things are moving in the right direction.

[–] 1chemistdown@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I avoid buying stuff from China too, but every major multinational corporation relies on China for basic supply chain materials at a reasonable price allowing for profit margin; until you can convince all those entities that cutting off access to the cheapest supplier and sometimes only supplier, no sitting president is going to put real consequences on the Chinese government.

The sad truth is that we unloaded the majority of our environmental production problems to countries that were willing to take on that problem, and were willing to sign onto international patent laws. China was willing to do this, created enough educated population to do this, and had no problem with the environmental damage that it created. USA, EU, and most of the so called “developed” nations were willing to put all that onto China. China has no problems under paying and overworking their citizens, while using super lax environmental laws.

[–] cassetti@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually though it seems like a lot of companies have started moving away from China for a lot of reasons. Look at this new report showing that Mexico surpasses China as the largest trade partner with the USA now, and china is on the decline:

[–] 1chemistdown@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, for a lot of end stage production. I’m talking about chemical stock production. So, all the different polymers, acids, starting hydrocarbons, basic pharmaceutical stock, pharmaceutical production, industrial chemical production, all the chemicals that go into producing microchips, etching chemicals, etc. this is where the massive environmental problems come from.

The chemical stock production is where all production starts. Most of this production was offshored to countries willing to take on that mess: China and India at the large scale, and at smaller scale are a bunch of African nations and a variety of smaller Asian countries. Russia too, and we see how well all the multinationals are honoring sanctions against Russia right now.