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Leading US imams and scholars urge Muslim voters to snub Kamala Harris over Gaza
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You seem to think that letting the more genocidal republicans win would encourage the democrats to be less genocidal, which is bizarre.
They move right when they lose to compete with the republicans because the republicans win with a right wing strategy.
If the democrats won all the time, the republicans would have to move left just to regain power, and the Overton window would move left.
Not voting for the democrats in order to move them left is insanity. They will respond by copying the more successful electoral strategy.
They are the same. They both support Israel undyingly, Biden is even sending in the troops.
They move right because that's what their donors want.
No, they wouldn't. Fascism is Capitalism in decay, both parties are always moving rightward.
If the Democrats don't want to regain left votes then they are too far gone and we need a revolution.
You've tied yourself into all kinds of intricate knots. It's simple. If you convince all the people who care about Gaza not to vote, things get worse for Gaza.
If only right wing people vote, only right wing policies will win.
If only right wing policies win, only right wing policies will be offered.
I have not. Things will not get worse for Gaza under Trump or Harris, they are fully aligned. Pretending it's good for Palestinians to be murdered because the bombs are sent by a Dem is monstrous.
Plus, I advocate voting, just for PSL or the Greens, anti-genocide parties.
Dems are far-right as well, lmao. If you want left views represented, vote for left parties.
Parties pick policies based on donors, not on the public's opinion.
Well, you go ahead and continue to push the democrats right then. I can't convince you. The outcome of the election will definitely convince the democrats. And I can tell you they will listen to the republican voters before they log on to lemmy.ml because there's so many more of them and they actually vote in a way that affects the outcome.
And I can tell you you will continue to support the increasingly right wing Democrats, and in 20 years, if Leftists save the world, you'll look back on your right-wing support with disgust.
They move right when they lose. So that they can win again.
If they move right, you'll still support that until the end of the world. You would vote for Hitler if Hitler+ was the opponent, instead of lifting a finger against the system.
Well, unlike you, I can tell the difference between Hitler and the democratic party. You're so full of false equivalence.
If they move left, you'll still not vote for them because you're too pure to compromise and you will forever throw your supposedly leftist ideals on the dustbin of throwing what tiny tiny tiny power you have away and convincing anyone that shares your views to do the same.
Where is the red line for you to stop supporting the increasingly right-wing Democrats? It certainly isn't genocide, you're voting for that this time around, so is there a meaningful point of no return? If not, you would vote for Hitler.
I have been advocating for revolution this entire thread. I am advocating for people to stop supporting the genocidal US Empire and do something other than legitimizing the US Terrorist State.
Like I said, you're an accelerationist who wants it to get as bad as possible as far as possible because you think revolution will come sooner that way, and you don't care how bad the world gets in the meanwhile.
I haven't said anything of the sort, you just make up whatever strawman stances you want to attack because it's more convenient for you than confronting the fact that you support genocide.
I agree that you didn't admit it.
You didn't admit to being a genocide enthusiast either, but more than anything your "lesser evil" rhetoric shows that you'd goosestep with the Democrats right into Hell.
Your greater evil rhetoric puts the actual fascists in charge of America. Did you read project 2025 yet? Or even a summary?
Of course I have, I go for the "no evil" option and implore you to do so as well.
The fascists winning doesn't trouble you at all, though, which is weird for a leftist, no? I smell republicans in disguise.
Of course the dems or reps winning is troubling for me, the fact that you want the dems to win is troubling. We have established that you're far-right though, which is par for the course I suppose.
You're so full of shit.
You're so full of shit.