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Clearly, Google is serious about trying to oust ad blockers from its browser, or at least those extensions with fuller (V2) levels of functionality. One of the crucial twists with V3 is that it prevents the use of remotely hosted code – as a security measure – but this also means ad blockers can’t update their filter lists without going through Google’s review process. What does that mean? Way slower updates for said filters, which hampers the ability of the ad-blocking extension to keep up with the necessary changes to stay effective.

(This isn’t just about browsers, either, as the war on advert dodgers extends to YouTube, too, as we’ve seen in recent months).

At any rate, Google is playing with fire here somewhat – or Firefox, perhaps we should say – as this may be the shove some folks need to get them considering another of the best web browsers out there aside from Chrome. Mozilla, the maker of Firefox, has vowed to maintain support for V2 extensions, while introducing support for V3 alongside to give folks a choice (now there’s a radical idea).

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[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Browsers with in built adblocker or system wide AdGuard.

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

DNS ad blockers are not sufficient to block all ads and often overly broad. So they have much higher rate of false positives and negatives compared to in-browser ad blockers. Differentiating between ads and useful content based on domain names will become more and more difficult. Both might use some url from the same cloud provider, and blocking those breaks a lot of stuff.

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee -2 points 1 month ago (4 children)
[–] generic_computers@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's both a browser extension and a DNS filter.

https://adguard-dns.io/kb/general/dns-filtering/#how-does-dns-filtering-work

Edit: It seems the apps can act as a VPN to filter traffic.

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

You where talking about "system wide AdGuard", which is not the browser addon, but an app that uses DNS blocking, be it by either letting people set DNS servers manually, or automatically through VPN. Their VPN does not break TLS connection by inserting custom certificates and MITM proxies, so they cannot read/modifiy content.

It might be possible to use TLS breaking proxies for systemwide ad blocking, but even that wouldn't help, because nowadays a lot of content and ads are loaded dynamically via javascript. So a browser is required to filter ads.

[–] KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Maybe you are looking for SpamGuard, TrojanGuard, VirusGuard, MalwareGuard, SpywareGuard, RansomWareGuard, etc. instead.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago
[–] Flying_Hellfish@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

porque no los dos? I use both and there are things uBlock can catch/block that AdGuard Home doesn't seem to be able to. That said AdGuard makes mobile pages readable, when most these days are a complete nightmare of ads

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was talking about AdGuard, not AdGuard Home.

[–] Flying_Hellfish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I misread system wide as network wide. My mistake. FWIW, I still prefer a network wide and browser plugin (ublock and privacy badger) combo.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Those are trash and DNS adblocking does not work on YT either. Garbage advice 0/10

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

No, you're wrong.