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[–] HumanPenguin 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

The Tories last elected leader, everyone. Can we see a debate between her and the lettuce now? Pretty sure the lettuce has some more thought out ideas. Def more fun to watch in interviews.

[–] mannycalavera 4 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The Tories last elected leader, everyone.

Rishi Sunak or Boris Johnson depending on your definitions.

[–] HumanPenguin 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Whole nation was involved in that election.

Only tories selected truss. And she was the last person their party elected to lead them.

[–] mannycalavera 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wasn't Truss selected by the members and not the MPs? Hence the collosal fuck up that as her premiership?

As far as I remember the Tories selected Cameron, and he won two elections, May and she won one election, Boris and he won one election, Truss and she crashed the economy but didn't win or lose an election, Sunak but he lost an election. Their method of selection changed a little but it's been that way for many many years.

[–] HumanPenguin 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what you are disagreeing with.

Tories means the members of the party. That is what joining a party means.

The Tories elected truss as their leader. And that was the last time Tories elected a leader for their party?

[–] mannycalavera 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tories means the members of the party.

What is your view on the Tory MPs given this definition?

The Tories elected truss as their leader. And that was the last time Tories elected a leader for their party?

Because I thought Sunak fit that bill 🤷.

[–] HumanPenguin 1 points 1 month ago

Tory MPs are just like labour MPs.

Not sure what term thay use. But labour use PLP parlimentary labour party.

Parlimentary concervative and unionist party sound like a mouth full. And PCP is an unlikely acronym to encourage them. So ill use it. Pretty sure their all on something ;)

Sunak lost the last tory leadership election. So by definition he was never elected as their leader.

He was a runner up as the party leadership was desperate to avoid another party election. Given the MP/PCP was so devided at the one that elected truss.

They were more worried about the harm having a leader fight so soon would do to the party.

Remember at least in my lifetime (50 plus years) tories sending 2 options to the members is rare. The diffierence in votes is normally large so The least supported by MPs normally backs out before that happens.

Historically tories have always been pretty good at managing PCP seperation. The power of the far right in theor party has always been a grumpy minority. That part of the party Winning the brexit ref was the start of a change in the party.

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