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To make solar power viable, we need a solution for overnight energy storage.

Batteries are complicated.

Do you know what isn't? Water go up. stonks-up

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[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's fine for places that have a lot of water and hills

[–] AmericaDelendaEst@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

you can use saltwater for it though, doesn't need to be fresh water or treated in any way, just a physical medium to make turbine go brrr

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Machinery and saltwater generally don't mix very well. And you'd still need to make a saltwater lake somewhere uphill.

[–] AmericaDelendaEst@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

yeah but in this case it's just a pipe and a turbine it's gotta make move

And you'd still need to make a saltwater lake somewhere uphill.

water tanks tho

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

Saltwater damages turbine blades very fast. Using saltwater would require some very different engineering for the turbine blades, which might not be worth the benefit of being able to use saltwater.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Turbines are precision machines. And if we're talking utility scale installations here, we want an upper reservoir measured in thousands of cubic meters, not liters.

[–] Farvana@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 month ago

The pipe and turbine would break so fast it's basically useless. Also, tanks are waaaay more expensive than digging a hole in the ground.

There's good reasons why freshwater open reservoirs are used. If tanks and brine were usable, people already would be using them.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

For places without water, what's wrong with importing a bunch once? Evaporation suppressors exist to help with hotter climates.

You're probably right about the hills. Building a water tower that can hold an entire lake seems inefficient.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

How are you importing an entire lake?

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

Truck? 5G? Just let a tiny faucet run a long time? IDK. kitty-cri-potato

from somewhere import lake

lake.flow()

It's just that simple!

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Use a very long hose.

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

You don't really need huge volumes of water, a 5GW hydro storage proposal in Australia will require 38 gigalitres, or 0.038 cubic kilometres. At a depth of ten metres, that's a 2km circle (or rather, two ~1.5km circular reservoirs).

Arizona uses ~8500 gigalitres a year to put that in comparison.