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[–] JustARaccoon@lemmy.world 134 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I'm confused, how can a company that's gained numerous advantages from being non-profit just switch to a for-profit model? Weren't a lot of the advantages (like access to data and scraping) given with the stipulation that it's for a non-profit? This sounds like it should be illegal to my brain

[–] berno@lemmy.world 54 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Careful you're making too much sense here and overlapping with Elmo's view on the subject

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A stopped clock is still correct twice a day.

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

And OpenAI is still less correct than a broken clock.

[–] Subverb@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Guess I'm out of the loop. Who's Elmo?

[–] berno@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 15 points 1 month ago

angry Sesame Street noises

[–] dan@upvote.au 4 points 1 month ago

Elongated Muskrat

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

Can't do crimes if you're rich. It's in the Constitution

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Money doesn't have any advantages in other countries? When did that happen?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't see where I said that.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can no longer make the same connection you did earlier?

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the person that you’re replying to said something that’s true about the USA. they didn’t say anything about other countries.

for another example, i can say “if you’re in the USA, then the current year is 2024” and that statement will be true. it is also true in every other country (for the moment), but that’s besides the point.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And I replied that it's also true in other countries, it's not a problem only the US has. It's not besides the point. It's acting as if only the US has the problem.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

And I specifically mentioned the USA because that's the country where OpenAI operates and where the events in the article take place, so if someone asks why it's so easy for OpenAI to go from being a nonprofit to a for-profit company (this was the issue I was responding to, not some general question about whether money has influence around the world), it's the laws of the USA that are relevant, not the laws of other countries.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 month ago

I’m confused, how can a company that’s gained numerous advantages from being non-profit just switch to a for-profit model

Money

[–] 108@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Money and purchasing the right people.

[–] FatCrab@lemmy.one 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Their non-profit status had nothing to do with the legality of their training data acquisition methods. Some of it was still legal and some of it was still illegal (torrenting a bunch of books off a piracy site).

[–] JustARaccoon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Well maybe not on paper but they did leverage it a lot when questioned

[–] gencha@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

These people claimed their product can pass the bar exam (it was a lie). Tells you how they feel about the legal system