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Where do you realistically expect the world to be in terms of meeting the 2050 climate goals? (lemmy.sdf.org)

submitted 1 year ago by LiamMayfair@lemmy.sdf.org to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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With evidence mounting on the failure to limit global warming to 1.5C, do you think global carbon emissions will be low enough by 2050 to at least avoid the most catastrophic climate change doomsday scenarios forecast by the turn of the century?

I am somewhat hopeful most developed countries will get there but I wonder if developing countries will have the ability and inclination to buy into it as well.

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[–] Emperor 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think we've fucked it. Without some drastic measures being taken we are on track for a minimum of a 2-2.5C rise and that is itself bad but will likely see certain feedback loops (defrosting permafrost, melting deep sea methane deposits, etc) ramp up hard to the point climate change will spiral out of control.

The remnants of human civilisation will be any billionaires with a sufficiently advanced escape plan in place, looking back on a boiling world in their rear view mirrors as they head off to eke out a pitiful existence on a barren rock somewhere out there.

[–] skookumasfrig@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The guards those billionaires hire will be in good shape, especially after they kill the billionaires.

[–] theshatterstone54 2 points 1 year ago

We can always dream, right? But that is about as likely as politicians taking a few million from their main source of income, that being billionaires, and then deciding not to create a new law that would benefit them

[–] interolivary@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, I doubt industrial society is going to survive for another 100 years. I'd be surprised if things don't go to shit in the next 20, and that's not even accounting for some sort of "black swan" event triggered by a feedback loop or something like that, that suddenly kicks off a speedrun to turn Earth into Venus.

We're fucked, and we'd be fucked even if humanity went carbon negative starting right now. While the human race will likely be fine, this current lifestyle and economic system we've got in most of the developed world will go tits up and billions will end up dying, if not from the direct effects of climate change then eg. social instability, war, disease, famine. While we could still make the future slightly less bad for ourselves, it's simply not profitable and there's so much inertia in global capitalism that things won't change without fantastic amounts of violence and social upheaval, and I doubt the next change will be for the better considering how popular far right and conservative parties are in many places around the world right now. They're gleefully making things worse and then blaming leftists / black people / atheists / science / The Gays / etc