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Did I say mandatory? I meant optional! You're "free" to die in a cardboard box under a freeway as a market capitalist scarecrow warning to the other ants so they keep showing up to make us more!

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[โ€“] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're just throwing random numbers around. Stocks generally aren't that volatile, but when they do rise and fall quickly there's usually a reason.

Like let's say you bought GameStop stock, and it experiences extreme volatility. Let's keep the math easy and say you start with 100 shares of stock worth $10k total, and the stock jumps to $100k. Having diamond hands, you don't want to sell, but you owe 28% of the $90k you "made" on the stock, which can be spread out over 9 years. You sell $2,800 worth of stock this year, and you're left with $97,200. The next year, the stock tanks to it's original value. You have $9,720 in stock, and you have a $2,800 prepaid tax credit for whenever you decide to sell the stock. The next year, the company goes bankrupt and dissolves. You have a $10,000 loss which you can deduct from taxable income over four years, and a $2,800 tax credit.

Two things are important in this example: Such taxes only apply to individuals who have over $100 million in wealth. Nobody is going to end up poor because of the "burden" of paying a reasonable tax. The second point is that short term investments are taxed as regular income. So the example isn't great, anyway.

In spite of those caveats, it highlights the insignificance of the additional tax burden for capitalist speculators in volatile markets. Such a tax structure discourages hoarding and market manipulation while removing the loophole that the wealthiest individuals use to avoid most taxes altogether.

[โ€“] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Having diamond hands, you don't want to sell, but you owe 28% of the $90k you "made" on the stock, which can be spread out over 9 years.

No it can't. Unless you are proposing a radically different tax proposal. You owe 28% of the $90k that year. Not in 9 years. This year. $25k owed because a group memed a stock that you owned long before it was a meme.

As to my example being the exception, look at any long term stock chart and you'll see multi year increases and multi year declines. MSFT was the same price in 1998 and 2001. 3 years of paying taxes on a stock that gave you $0 capital gains and $0 losses. No tax break. Just a tax bill because of Internet stocks were popular for a few years.

Give me $25k today and I'll agree to pay you back over 9 years without interest. Deal?