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“With membership at new lows and no electoral wins to their name, it’s time for the Greens to ditch the malignant narcissist who’s presided over its decline.”

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[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The Green party is doing exactly what it was designed to do. It's siphoning off eco-conscious Democratic voters just significantly enough to affect voting margins but not enough to win. To be clear I'm not saying that Even a significant number of people in the green party have that as a goal, but top down, that's all it's about.

We are a two-party system and they are allowing the green party to exist to use it as a wedge.

[–] febra@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Then I guess y'all should starting reworking how your system works, because it doesn't sound like a democracy at all if you can't vote for what you actually believe in.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

America has what I like to call ‘Monkey’s Paw Democracy’; almost as if someone wished for a representative Government from a cursed object.

Now instead of voting for policies they like, voters are forced to vote against policies they dislike or risk being punished my having their rights slowly chipped away.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

We would, but as it stands now it's an authoritarian dictatorship, right wing hellscape, and a marginally awful moderate right wing dystopia in a trench coat and they're not about to cede any distance to allowing us new liberties.

If we don't get at least a 60% margin there's a really good chance the guy that said this will be the last time you ever have to vote, I'm going to be a dictator on day one and I'm going to imprison all of the opponents, legislators and donors that went against me.

Outside of an actual moderate or left-wing coup which is pretty much impossible I don't see there's any way that this country is getting out of this.

[–] lengau@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Agreed, but while we're working on that in multiple avenues, we still need to vote for the harm reduction choice.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I'll say that I sort of despise Fairvote.

They lie about RCV pretty much all the time.

The system has more problems than First Past the Post, and still doesn't fix the third party problem.

No, a far better system is STAR. It actually fixes the problems that it sets out to fix.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

It would be nice but you'd have to go back to 1850 because we eradicated them and made sure it couldn't happen again.