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cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/13145612

(edit) Would someone please ship some counterfeit money through there and get it confiscated, so the police can then be investigated for spending counterfeit money?

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[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Edit: the following only applies to USPS, so it's probably a good idea to only use USPS for mail.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1708

Whoever steals, takes, or abstracts, or by fraud or deception obtains, or attempts so to obtain, from or out of any mail, post office, or station thereof, letter box, mail receptacle, or any mail route or other authorized depository for mail matter, or from a letter or mail carrier, any letter, postal card, package, bag, or mail, or abstracts or removes from any such letter, package, bag, or mail, any article or thing contained therein, or secretes, embezzles, or destroys any such letter, postal card, package, bag, or mail, or any article or thing contained therein; or

Whoever steals, takes, or abstracts, or by fraud or deception obtains any letter, postal card, package, bag, or mail, or any article or thing contained therein which has been left for collection upon or adjacent to a collection box or other authorized depository of mail matter; or

Whoever buys, receives, or conceals, or unlawfully has in his possession, any letter, postal card, package, bag, or mail, or any article or thing contained therein, which has been so stolen, taken, embezzled, or abstracted, as herein described, knowing the same to have been stolen, taken, embezzled, or abstracted—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

~~A cop who commits a crime is a criminal. A cop who commits a felony crime is a felon. Arrest them.~~

[–] LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

FedEx is a private company providing delivery services. I’m not a lawyer but I’m guessing the statute you’re referencing only applies to USPS.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Shit, you're right. The only recourse here is a suit against FedEx I think, from anyone who's had money stolen, and it would have to be based in how they present themselves as a mail carrier such that the average consumer thinks their mail is protected when it's not. Risky.

[–] LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee 18 points 2 months ago

Since it’s civil asset forfeiture what actually happens is the state/municipality sues to take the money so it has to be fought in court against the state/municipality.

The problem is the state sues the money directly so the suit itself would be something like Indiana vs. $48,000 or Marion County vs. $48,000. This makes it a lot harder and more expensive to recover your money since they are suing an inanimate object, not the owner directly.

Civil asset forfeiture laws need to be scrapped and rewritten because this has been going on in the US for years.