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With Tyrek Hill being detained less than 4 months after the arrest of Scottie Scheffler, have the police actually angered enough people with money and power that there could be actual consequences?

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[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No.

If you want police reform, look to California and gun reform. We would have to convince people of color and poor people to join the police in RECORD numbers at the same time organize and protest against using tax dollars to pay for shitty cop cases. The bad cops will be replaced but it would take a long time for the systemic leadership to be replaced. Honestly though, if you replace the patrols then a lot of change would happen. The racist old leadership might just shut up till they retire.

Shit, pass a law stating all police court cases with the police found at fault, must be paid by the police union. Eventually the bad cops will get fired and replaced with younger cops. Then when the police are looking more like the people they are policing, then laws will be passed to hold cops accountable.

[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

As a Californian, do not look to our state for police reform. IMO the best example is Colorado removing qualified immunity. Discipline doesn't work and the system refuses to jail their own, so you gotta hit them financially. Bankrupting shitty little town police forces either forces reform or kicks authority up to the state, which is more regimented in its regulation. Either way it's putting bad cops out of a job.

Honestly legal immunity needs to go as a concept. It might be annoying for judges to fight off lawsuits, but fuckem. They're paid damn well and they have the time. Judges are public servants, not public sovereigns. Some of them need to be reminded of this fact, and lawsuits are a good way of opening crusty conservative eyes. And the entire civil suit system needs to be simplified into plain English so that the average citizen can use it. This legalese fuckery was designed from the start to disadvantage uneducated people. That's downright un-American. The ruling class has forgotten that this is the land of the free, not the land of the fee.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I agree with you. I just think in order to get those laws repealed like qualified immunity then the police force needs to be filled with more people that have the outlook of ACAB. The skinheads were getting on message boards in the 90s and trying to convince the young ones without tatts to join the police in order to terrorize black neighborhoods. There should be some form of that from the people that want police reform.

[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Abolish police entirely and mobilize the NG into law enforcement. The rules of engagement alone is miles better than the policy shit police forces have now, and cops are all already carrying or being supplied with military gear anyways. If we already have a militarized police force, why not cut out the middle man and turn our actual military into the police force?

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Race doesn't really factor into a cop being shitty.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No, not necessarily, but I was mainly thinking about when white supremacist coordinated online to join the police while hiding their ideology. Cops can be shitty regardless of race, but there was/is a coordinated effort to make race a factor.