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Ill keep it as short as possible, apologies if i keep rambling(ill put my specs at the bottom)

Over the last yew years, i have used quite a lot of distros, from mint (currently my main again), to manjaro to solus to endeavouros and more i cant remember, one thing they all (minus solus) had in commong (for me) was the fact that pc gaming...was horrible on them.

Many hours where spend getting different games to work, or rather trying to get them to work at all, most of them had failed, steam, lutris, default wine, no matter what has been used)

As an example:

Anno 1404 history edition (best anno, fite me), i bought it on steam, tried launching it, didnt work, tried several proton versions, didnt work, lutris, didnt work, i downloaded a crack to see, didnt work either, using a different file format, nothing.

Sometimes i was able to make it work, once and than never again, solus was the only one where anno 1404 worked out of the box, i managed to make it work in endeavouros once by installing two packages i could never find again. (most recently, i bought space marine 2, didnt work and keeps crashing no matter what i do9

But this was the best case scenario, games really work.

Is it just my hardware?

Am i using linux just wrongly for years?

Is it my fault?

Am i missing something?

My specs:

prebuilt desktop: Acer Nitro N50-620

memory 64KiB BIOS

memory 32GiB System Memory

memory 16GiB DIMM DDR4 Synchronous 26

memory 8GiB DIMM DDR4 Synchronous 320

memory 8GiB DIMM DDR4 Synchronous 320

processor 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-

bridge Intel Corporation

display TU116 [GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER]

storage Micron_2210_MTFDHBA1T0QFD

bus Tiger Lake-H USB 3.2 Gen 2x1 x

network Tiger Lake PCH CNVi WiFi

bus Tiger Lake-H Serial IO I2C Con

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[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago (1 children)

First of all, what the hell is going on with your RAM configuration?

Your first stop should have been the protondb page for your game. Given that most other people report it as running out of the box, then the issue lies somewhere else.

Which proton versions have you tried? Since you have an Nvidia card, what is the driver revision? What desktop environment, and version of it are you using?

I hate to say it, but reinstalling your entire OS multiple times, without doing any troubleshooting, has been a waste of your time

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

whats going on with my ram configuration?

i tried using protondb several times, but it rarely if ever has worked with me, the tweaks people suggest i mean.

all between 9 to 5 on many games, sometimes proton ge too but i never noticed a difference when trying to use that one

whats a driver revision?

DE: cinnamon 6.2.9

i have done so much troubleshooting over these years that reinstalling or installing another distro became easier and quicker to do

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Usually people have only same size RAM, but other configurations can work too. (I have 20GB of RAM running fine, for example.)

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

do you think that may somehow be the cause of so many problems? or part of it?

[–] FMT99@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Unlikely. It won't run optimally but it shouldn't be the cause of crashes or bugs. If you're not sure you can run a ram test (https://memtest.org/)

[–] MartianSands@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

It's unlikely to cause anything to outright fail, but it will certainly be creating bottlenecks and inefficiencies

[–] anindefinitearticle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Each nvidia card works better or worse with different version releases of nvidia drivers. Older cards usually need smaller version numbers. Since you are running mint, all versions you need to test should be in the default repos. Try different drivers and see if you can find the right one for your card.

apt-cache search nvidia

should give you a list of options, which you can install with apt-get install.

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

ngl, id rather stick with what is recommended before i go through hundreds of slightly differently named drivers

[–] anindefinitearticle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's usually only like 5 tracks. "What's recommended" is nouveau, which works but not for gaming. It's recommended because it's open source and can do most things that the proprietary nvidia drivers can do. Nvidia is really bad at maintaining their drivers, and different drivers work better for different cards.

Nvidia sucks. Switch to AMD and never have a problem again. Or spend an hour testing each of the proprietary options maintained in the debian repos, and most likely find that at least one of them works. Until an update to the drivers or kernel comes along, and breaks it again, so you have to play around with driver versions and kernel versions to find a combo that works. That's less likely to happen if you stick with a debian-based distro vs a bleeding-edge distro like arch.

And buy AMD for your next machine to send a message to nvidia that their driver support sucks!

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

idk man, mints driver manager do be saying nvidia is recommended

but besides that, i tried asking for an equivalent card on lemmy once, ill leave it at: im not inclined to try again

henceforth, if amd, prebuilt only

and regarding driver and kernel version, the moment i have to fiddle with either to get something working to the extent you are describing, im burning my pc

[–] anindefinitearticle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Please try versions 535 and 470.

See if either fixes your issues.

You need to reboot after switching. It'll take you 30 mins max, even if neither works and you have to switch back.

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i switched to 550 yesterday, it was 535 before that

[–] anindefinitearticle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What motivated you to switch branches? Did it solve another issue? Why were you not on the latest branch yesterday, ie, why did you roll back originally? Does one driver work better for some games, and another driver works better for others?

Nvidia drivers are jank. I honestly haven't touched them since 2017. I remember having to reboot and switch drivers to switch games I was playing with friends and finding the whole experience annoying as hell. I realized that Linus Torvalds was right, fuck nvidia, AMD is the way to go. Have not had to touch anything with my drivers since switching. All of my interactions with nvidia since have confirmed that they are not a company deserving of my patronage.

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This thread made me look at it and see the newer driver

Is there an amd card/PC youd consider an equivalent or upgrade?

I searched "gtx 1660 vs amd" and saw that your card is usually compared to the rx 590 from amd on speed tests, with similar results. Price is also similar.

One example that includes the prices I was comparing. I have used neither card. I'm not familiar with that website. Do your own research before making a purchase,