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A bit of context:

I am a long time user of Proton (5+ years, Unlimited user) services. I am also a long time user of 1Password (since 2016). Understandably I have hundreds of items currently in my 1Password account, and a safe work flow on my devices with that.

Would it make sense to start moving those entries to Proton Pass (as it is included) and be off a bit cheaper, or keep them separated as to not throw all the eggs in the Proton basket?

Ideas, thoughts, tips or experiences?

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[–] Lodra@programming.dev 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I looked into proton pass ~9 months ago and it just wasn’t ready. Needed a few more features before I was willing to move from Bitwarden. However, I gave it another look 2 weeks ago and proton pass satisfied all of my needs. Since I was already paying for proton unlimited, it just made sense for me to change. And it’s been a perfectly good experience so far! A couple of thoughts:

While I do run Linux, I don’t need a native app for it. I exclusively use a browser extension on my desktop. It does everything that I need. I do use a native app on IOS and it works quite well.

The 2fa in proton is pretty good now, which I needed. It can also store other types of data like credit cards, identities, etc. But it’s not quite as good at identifying fields for auto fill. Pretty close though so I’m not bothered by this.

My biggest ”complaint” is protecting my proton account. I use it for email, storage, etc. so I can’t accept a weak password for it. But I also need to have reliable access to other passwords stored in proton pass. For this, I want something long yet memorable and easy enough to type out. These two requirements are roughly at odds with each other.

My solution for now is to keep my Bitwarden account and use it as a source to recover my proton account when necessary. I think it’s a good pattern actually and I may expand this in the future with methods like syncing data between the two tools.

I want something long yet memorable and easy enough to type out. These two requirements are roughly at odds with each other.

My 'go to' for long passwords are song lyrics. I try to find a lyric that has a number (or word that can be subbed with a number) and one where a symbol makes sense: Just the 2 of us you & I