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[–] r00ty@kbin.life 62 points 2 months ago (41 children)

Here's what I think. Both opinions are correct.

Rust is sufficiently different that you cannot expect C developers to learn rust to the level they have mastered C in order to be working at the kernel level. It's not going to happen.

I don't really know too much about rust. Maybe one day I'll actually mess around with it. But the one time I looked at a rust git repo I couldn't even find where the code to do a thing was. It's just different enough to be problematic that way.

So I think probably, the best way IS to go the way linus did. Just go ahead and write a very basic working kernel in rust. If the project is popular it will gain momentum.

Trying to slowly adapt parts of the kernel to rust and then complain when long term C developers don't want to learn a new language in order to help isn't going to make many friends on that team.

[–] pathief@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Just go ahead and write a very basic working kernel in rust.

I don't get this stance, really. If I want to write a driver in Rust I should start by creating a completely new Kernel and see if it gains momentum? The idea of allowing Rust in kernel drivers is to attract new blood to the project, not to intentionally divert it to a dummy project.

Rust is sufficiently different that you cannot expect C developers to learn rust to the level they have mastered C

If you watch the video, no one asked anything from the C developers other than documentation. They just want to know how to correctly make the Rust bindings.

Note that Rust is not replacing C code in the Kernel, just an added option to writing drivers.

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