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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

NATO is essentially a gang of Imperialist countries combining strength to maintain their Imperialist status militarily.

[–] whenyellowstonehasitsday@fedia.io -4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

even if that was an accurate description of nato, that's not an accurate description of a protection racket

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It is both. NATO spreads in a rent-seeking manner.

[–] whenyellowstonehasitsday@fedia.io -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

no it isn't, and also, it's rent-seeking by having countries ask to join? yes this makes sense

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's the same logic as saying Capitalism is voluntary because workers agree to work for their wages. Such analysis sees the subservience in a vacuum devoid of external pressures or developmental practices.

[–] whenyellowstonehasitsday@fedia.io -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

in this case the external pressure is a rogue state doing a cheeky land grab on its neighbor

i'm not sure why that's nato's fault, although i'm very excited that you're about to tell me

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

NATO was formed to be anti-USSR, after the collapse of which the Russian Federation tried to join NATO, and was denied. The RF then complained about NATO expansion, which had not ceased.

Regardless of whether or not you believe Russia's invasion of Ukraine is justified or villianous, it was provoked by NATO expansion, as admitted by NATO leaders themselves.

NATO didn't start after 2022, many of its leaders were Nazi officers and it has always been a way to exert Western supremacy.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You can't argue with these people. I'm starting to learn the hard way.

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

There is literally an entire "argument" under this comment between these two lmao wtf are you on about