women don't want to view men as threats. yes, this problem cuts both ways. it ultimately still boils down to how men are socialized. what we see from women is just a response to that.

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think it boils down a lot further than just the socialisation of men. It boils down to how people see one another.

At the moment, the idea that men must be "defused" in some way, as if they might just "go off" is repugnantly offensive. It's a line of thought that harks back to racist ideas of "uncultured savages" who could "regress" at any moment.

Similarly, the idea that everything is ok for women even now is bucolicly stupid. This is beyond simple socialisation to solve, and requires a solid bit of activisim.

The really sad thing is we all want the same thing - for people to care about us, and accept who we are. For people not to hurt us, and to feel like we're part of the wider world about us beyond token consumption.

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

harks back to racist ideas of "uncultured savages"

Does it? Does it really?

[–] Funkwonker@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean, yeah, no shit?

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago

Oh, you're right, I forgot about the 100 years of uncultured, savage men being conscripted into slave labor to build rail roads or whatever.

The persecution complex with you people is astounding.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's definitely a relationship between the marginalization of dark skinned people (men and women) and the view of dark skinned people as more masculine (therefore more dangerous.)

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago

I'm not sure I agree, but I'm also not sure what you're talking about.

Is there a view that dark skinned people are more masculine? I might accept less feminine; such a view would serve the purpose of making the violence against them easier for people to stomach.

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A question for you to meditate on, as my position is quite clear.

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's clear.

Out of curiosity, how did you feel about man vs bear?

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

An excellent piece of ragebait, it became more than the issue it tried to raise though.