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[–] glimse@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

outside you cant tell even a few seconds later.

I've got bad news for you, smoker....we can tell. You fuckin STINK no matter where you smoke. Your breath, your clothes, your hair....yuck. Everyone knows you took that cigarette break.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

A) other than a few joints in my 20s I've never smoked, dont be an arse and make assumptions about people you dont know.

B) I really dont care that smokers often stink, I dont live with any. My point was that their cancer causing fumes dont linger outside for me to breathe in so I dont care that they are doing it to themselves. The opposite is true inside where they are affecting me, so I'm glad that's banned.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well you specifically mentioned the smell which is what I was referring to

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I mentioned the smell merely as a way of showing that smoke fumes linger inside in a way they dont outside.

[–] Zombie 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Oh no! Smells! Call the police.

"Yes, police service please. Somebody was stressed at work and decided to take a break to calm down and in doing so inadvertently made my jumper smelly. Can you arrest them please? They're still here. They're behind the bar serving pints to everyone, you can't miss them, their t-shirt is so pongy, poooooeeeyyyyy. I'll see you in 5 minutes."

I worked in a pub for a few years, do you know how difficult it is to get the plod to show up? Even if there's two blokes kicking the shit out of each other it can be a task to get them to respond to the call.

Making it ILLEGAL to smoke outside is ridiculous. Those who say otherwise are far happier with government overreach and authority than they'd otherwise admit.

Edit: to add, remember when we were told sitting outside kept us safe from covid, an airborne virus, because of the constant airflow? Funny how that doesn't apply to smoking.

[–] GarrulousBrevity@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The comparison to COVID is interesting. If people can smell the smoke, they're literally breathing in the air that the smoker is breathing out, and one can definitely smell smoke from the next table over. Maybe that's part of why lockdown didn't work as well as we hoped.

Also, if you can smell it, it's doing harm. Second and third hand smoke on your clothing is still real in outdoor spaces, and people should have the freedom to avoid that harm.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In your experience, do bartenders tend to take their smoke breaks in the outdoor seating area with the patrons? If not then your post is moot - the ban isn't for employees taking a smoke break out back.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] glimse@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

Care to point out what I missed? I saw nothing in the article indicating that it would ban smoking outdoors in general