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Hi all,

I'm seeing a lot of hate for capitalism here, and I'm wondering why that is and what the rationale behind it is. I'm pretty pro-capitalism myself, so I want to see the logic on the other side of the fence.

If this isn't the right forum for a political/economic discussion-- I'm happy to take this somewhere else.

Cheers!

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[–] Droptherock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think that I hear the argument against capitalism the most from people who reference unskilled labor. Sure, the person working in a warehouse is getting screwed wage-wise because the company is greedy and they doesn't have a unique skill set. But the guy in the office that is maintaining a proprietary piece of software has the leverage to demand a higher wage. I think when it comes down to it, capitalism is just another version of the economic "game". I prefer this game to socialism (or really any other economic philosophy) as I know how to work the current system better. Don't want to get screwed in your career? Specialize! I understand a lot of people don't want to hear this as it puts the impetus on us instead of the rich,, but that's how the system works (for now). I will always be on-board with people wanting to better themselves and their situation (especially at the expense of the rich) but getting something for nothing just isn't realistic without massive mobilization of the lowest wage earners. Not to mention the hurdles in our government.

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I think i would rather enrich the lives of others aswell as myself.

We cant all be software engineers.

I built myself up from a warehouse to a job administering computer networks. Ive still got a ways to go but i didnt do it by myself. I had help from my family, my colleagues ans friends. And i didnt leave them behind. I encoraged and helped many of my colleagues in my previous role to aim high and some follwed me up the ladder.

If you are only out for number one then you will go far. But i cant be like that. I dont believe anyone, including myself, is any more deserving of a better life than anyone else. Why fight eachother to reach the top when we can all go together?

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

What do we do when everyone has a super niche programming skill and there just aren’t enough positions converting legacy fortran codebases to rust?

What do we do when there’s a bunch of unfilled janitor positions, should they put the effort in to specialize in disenfecting surfaces?