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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 47 points 2 months ago (27 children)

France is speedrunning this right now. Any time a liberal claims to be antifascist, ask them to explain why they think fascism exists and where it comes from, materially.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 47 points 2 months ago (26 children)

To be fair, if liberals were capable of material analysis then they would no longer be liberals.

[–] kjo@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 months ago (24 children)

What does "material analysis" means in this context? What should I search to know more? I searched the term and only came up with chemistry topics.

[–] Sagittarii@lemm.ee 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Simply put, materialism — as opposed to idealism — is the idea that everything we do and experience as a society (our history, culture, politics, etc) is shaped by the material reality around us, rather than ideas.

"Material analysis" in this case therefore means analysing politics and history through this lens. And it's a fundamental component of socialism/marxism.

Simple diagram of how our material reality shapes our society

Yogthos is insulting liberals because liberalism is an idealist ideology that always eventually gives way to fascism when a capitalist state is (inevitably) in decay.

[–] kjo@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 months ago

Thank you for the explanation. Hopefully I learn something from the reference you linked. I'll watch the video first before reading the literatures.

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