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[–] Entropywins@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They are probably smart enough to find a phone if they want one...

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Smartphones cost enough that a parent can control the finances and I don't believe kids can aquire a large enough fund by themselve without at least some assistance by the parents.
And if, usually as a gift and that is probably taken in by a parent anyway

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You can buy an Android Tracphone on Amazon for $25: https://a.co/d/5Xb3DqX

You can buy an unlocked Android phone for $44: https://a.co/d/0hTu3Me

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

On Amazon you either need to buy gift cards or have a working bank account/credit card.
If your kid works around those road blocks you have more serious problems...
And btw: Are they really usable?

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They sell these same cheap phones at the store, and yeah, they work fine. I assume you live way out in the suburbs somewhere where it is unheard of that a young teen might end up at a store with dozens of dollars in their pocket, but I'm being realistic. You have to be vigilant about what your kids are up to.

In many ways, I am more comfortable with my kid going to the store on their own than I am of them using TikTok, given what I know about TikTok.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

If you call the outer rim of the main city "way out in the suburbs"... Sure
https://maps.app.goo.gl/vPoEP3hS1yGNsfSH9

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And buying that requires knowledge of amazon, knowledge of what phone is useful, knowledge to avoid a scam or faulty product, an email address, a credit card, and a device to order from.

Children are surprisingly clever and have all the time in the world, but they aren't professional pen-testers and don't have the experience needed to use online services before having access to them.

It's far more likely they get a hand-me-down device from a friend and keep it at school, especially if they know such a thing would be confiscated immediately upon discovery. Preventing this interaction would require control over the child's life nearing Amish levels, or prison levels.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

They sell these at Walmart, too. It really only requires a chance sighting of it and a couple weeks allowance for a young teen or kid to end up with one of these cheap smartphones.

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

See that's more realistic. Sneaking off to walmart is still a bit of a stretch in sprawl-hell, but I can see how a cheap locally available phone might make it's way into anyone's hands, especially as a hand-me-down.

[–] padge@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago

Phone maybe, but not a SIM card with data. Although you can do a lot without a SIM card if your school has public WiFi I guess