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There’s no shortage of speculation when it comes to all things Valve. Tyler McVicker, YouTuber and one of the leading voices dedicated to deciphering Valve’s various internal developments, however now reports that not only is the company’s long-awaited standalone VR headset still coming, but it may arrive alongside its own Half-Life game.

Valve’s much hyped standalone, known only as ‘Deckard’, is “still very much in production,” McVicker maintains, saying that according to his sources that Valve “still intend[s] on shipping this piece of hardware.

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[–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] Oka@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] MTK@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Beat me to it!

[–] SteefLem@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Only if its also for non vr, then maybe also a little pee

[–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

How do you actually make this work without making a separate game that just uses the same maps and weapons? Even then things won't be designed in a way that you'd like, and a lot of what makes the experience good would be lost.

You basically have to make a second game based on the VR game. This is why nobody really does that.

2D games translate to VR either by providing virtual controls like in space, flight, and driving sims. Or they haphazardly stick cardboard cutout models that float through everything like in skyrim/fallout 4 VR.

Well made VR games with proper physics, like Boneworks, HL:Alyx, or Blade and Sorcery require an amount of input that you can't get outside of VR.

To get the same amount of control you get in a well made vr game from KB+M you'd basically be playing QWOP.

There's no way to get an equivalent of:

  • 3 3D Positional+Rotational inputs
  • capacitive finger tracking
  • face buttons w/ capacitive thumb tracking
  • analog sticks

On a standard gamepad or kb+m. That's before we talk about full-body tracking. If you make a game that really takes advantage of all of that, there's no way to make it translate well.

[–] SteefLem@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well they had 20+ years to figure that out

Also this is a very serious reply to a poop and pee comment

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Theres no way to get an equivalent of; 3 3D Positional+Rotational inputs

Someone never played Jurassic Park: Trespasser and it shows.

Also:

Analog sticks

lolwut? Just use a controller.

It really comes down to how the game is designed. It wouldn't feel as cool since you're not actually using your body, but there's no reason it couldn't work as any other FPS already does and then also have the full VR experience too for those with the hardware. Plenty of games do this.

[–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The point wasn't the analog sticks on their own, it was being able to coordinate all of them, or an equivalent, in unison.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

It’s like… beyond-analogue-sticks AND you still have two analogue sticks you can use while using the 3.5d super analogue sticks that are your whole ass arms.

VR is nuts.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 1 points 2 months ago

Out of excrement, presumably.

Edit: I hate that the default sort isn't oldest first; I was beaten to the punch.