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[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

A generator is one option, solar panels or just regular battery backups are another option.

If the grid is up but overloaded you can also just charge slower, which for 99% of people will work.

At least you can charge your car at all, if there is an actual power outage, the gas pumps won't be working at all, and even if they are, it requires so much infrastructure to deliver gas to the pumps that they won't be working for long.

Edit: since when did an expensive car equal easy to operate? Historically, the more expensive the car gets the more caveats to the operation there are.

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Also of note, this is still more fuel efficient than using an ICE vehicle.

[–] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

no it isnt... what the fuck are u talking about that generator has an extra shitty ice engine in it plus the losses on the generator, batteries, and motors. its way less efficient, theres no need to lie, EV are marginally better than ICE cars even if u dont lie about extreme edge cases like this.

[–] sfbing@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yes, I have read that it is. The generator runs at most efficient RPM and doesn't have idle time, etc.

[–] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

first, they arent running at the optimum rpm, the electric load on it slows it down and most generators are rated such that when outputting their maximum power they are above the load when they would be most efficient and u better fucking believe that charging a car has it at its limit. Its still much closer to optimal than an ice engine in a car but certainly not optimal.

second and more importantly small generators like that are usually at most 18% efficient where as modern ice cars are usually a little over 20% efficient and then that 18% gets multiplied by the around 95% efficiency of evs so yeah no theres no fucking way that is more efficient. If it was even a small "portable" powerplant it would be a different story even a small gas turbine would be more efficient than an ice car, but not that shitty little thing.

and again theres no need to pretend, this is an extreme case that would only happen rarely even taking it into account evs are better (even tho they are still cars and therefore dont fix 99.9% of the problems with cars)

That’s a good point! How much energy gets lost through the generator, do you reckon?

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