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[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

do we even know how complicit biden and harris are for this shit? They're just the administration, it's the congress pushing the funding bill, and the bill passed, i feel like we should probably be focusing on the 500-600 odd members of congress that are seemingly fine with this instead of two people who are quite literally just sitting at the top of the chain.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

there's a lot that biden could have done ages ago. as things looked back when it first became obvious (at least to me,); if Biden had vetoed the aid package, that likely would have signaled a seachange in the dems and made the package not-super-majority proof.

But the first big one, they did lump it in with Ukraine and Taiwan specifically to get that stuff through republicans. Biden could have at any time vetoed the spending bills.

he could also have admited that they're doing a genocide- or at the very least fucking warcrimes and be like "we need to hold onto that while you sort yourself out."

The thing that pisses me of the most is that Biden is getting his zionist smeared across Harris- but I think she could actually be persuadable- but not if everyone is being assholes about it. She's just not presently in a position to set policy. I hope I'm not reading it wrong and that her silence right now is... to not upset whatever the fuck Biden actually is doing. Because. as idioticly pathetically impotent as Biden is proving on this issue... I don't think he's just ignoring the genocide altogether. he's not trump.

there’s a lot that biden could have done ages ago. as things looked back when it first became obvious (at least to me,); if Biden had vetoed the aid package, that likely would have signaled a seachange in the dems and made the package not-super-majority proof.

it would've also denied aid to ukraine as well as humanitarian aid to palestine, and if the package hadn't been cucked by republicans so hard it would've also denied the border funding as well, though they blocked that independently themselves.

But the first big one, they did lump it in with Ukraine and Taiwan specifically to get that stuff through republicans. Biden could have at any time vetoed the spending bills.

this is extremely normal with large funding bills like this, it's just how you get these bipartisan supported bills through.

he could also have admited that they’re doing a genocide- or at the very least fucking warcrimes and be like “we need to hold onto that while you sort yourself out.”

i mean yeah, but the US hasn't exactly had the cleanest record when it comes to war crimes either. I mean we started numerous wars for shits and giggles.

It'd be nice to see this conflict resolved, but unfortunately i think a really big detriment to that goal currently is a lot of the palestine dialog that is just super aggressive and highly toxic. It also doesn't help that it seems to be their only issue that they care about. Single issue voting has never once solved a problem. I think a lot of the democratic dialog right now is very front facing, there's very little focusing on actual policy and specific issues that aren't extremely marketable. Shit like palestine just isn't a massive concern for the majority of the population, though i'm sure they would prefer it stopped. I imagine there's going to be a lot of behind the scenes work to clean this shit up, if they get elected. Democrats tend to be all bite no bark.