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[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 83 points 3 months ago (5 children)

There was a good show in there somewhere, but what we got wasn't it.

I'm not sure walking away from the season what I was supposed to have learned. It's ok to kill people sometimes as long as you're pretty sure they messed up your life?

Mando is about found families and learning to trust.

Andor is about how war/strife changes people.

Obi-wan is about relearning to believe (in yourself/the force) and what's worth fighting for.

Ahsoka is about students and teachers, how they each can learn from one another.

Even if you disagree with my interpretation, you can at least agree it's a possible interpretation.

But Acolyte... I just don't know what I'm supposed to get out of it. The dark side ain't so bad? Jedi don't like others using the force?

[–] troed@fedia.io 27 points 3 months ago

My takeaway was indeed that the Jedi of old weren't the good guys, although they still believed they were.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The jedi not being strictly all that "good" isn't all that new and I definitely would've liked to see that explored more, as well as more "neutral" force users, or even something from the perspective of the dark side too. I also don't think this show was as bad as the review bombing made it out to be and on YT you kept just seeing the same rage baiting bigots too but it definitely missed the mark in many areas, despite having some good moments too. Still, a lot of the hate definitely came from the fact that we had a black female main character and some lesbian force witches. That's pretty hard to ignore with how loud those people are.

I still want more something like Andor though. That was still the best Star Wars I've ever seen.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Actually ignoring the ragebait is easy. It exists for everything. The problem is when a TV show/film is weak. It makes the ragebait easy because now they are "right". The issue with the show has nothing to do with it having a black female lead. The story just wasn't that good. The story is still not that good if she were a white dude. It's not end of the world terrible, just mediocre.

Anyway, back to my point. Shitty people have shitty opinions, it's not worth listening to. OMG did you hear what the bigot said? No, was it shitty? It was? I'm not surprised. Stop giving them attention.

[–] Pandemanium@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I just couldn't believe that after all those years living completely different and separate lives, neither of them changed their hair at all. And since the adult twins were played by the same actor, I couldn't tell them apart aside from clothing.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I do agree they were hard to tell apart. Twins is a cool idea, and their similar appearance could be explained as the force guiding them. However I think fraternal twins might have been better in this situation.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But they weren't even twins...

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Lol, ok technically you're right they were the same person, but unless they intended to force merge them at some point I think different actors would have been fine.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 4 points 3 months ago

They weren't just twins, they were more or less the same person.

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago

If I ever do one of those “watch everything in order” things, I might just watch episode 5. The fight scene was sick. Given how inconsequential the story was, it would probably just feel like an episode of Visions.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's ok to kill people sometimes as long as you're pretty sure they messed up your life?

You could say the OG had the message that it's okay to become a terrorist if the government kills your aunt and uncle.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but it had other messages too. I'm not sure Acolyte had the one.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 8 points 3 months ago

I would say the message of the acolyte was:

Evil can be committed by good people with honorable intentions.

Just because it looks spooky doesn't make it evil.

Also, I think it also tried to flesh out two unpopular ideas from the prequels and sequels with the virgin birth of the chosen one and the force dyad.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I just didn't like acolyte because it was repetitive and redundant. The story is very similar to star wars and bring very little be too the table