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[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago (4 children)

"by my logic" i didn't say ukraine would have crumbled without NATO arms. i'm questioning how superior and helpful NATO arms are, remember?

but if the only thing it's helped with has been striking Russia's fleet in a war being fought on land in the east, lmao that seems very consequential

[–] meepster23@lemm.ee -3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Okay let me ask you why you think Ukraine has held on this long then? What do you think is the reason? According to this article and statements being made they are out numbered, out produced in arms, why are they still here?

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

because NATO, read the US and UK won't let them negotiate a peace deal, so they keep hauling men off the streets and throwing them to the front line meat grinder

eventually they will have to negotiate

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