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I've been researching for the past week Threadiverse projects (Lemmy at first, then PieFed and now Mbin) with the goal of testing out their interoperability with the rest of the Fediverse.

Apologies in advance if this is the third post you see from me - this one is my first in Mbin.

I wonder if you have any insights regarding the differences between the 3 - advantages/disadvantages and opinions on your favorite project?

I'm also interested to see if Mbin manages to federate mentions (unlike Lemmy and PieFed who falls short). So for the purposes of this test, I'm mentioning:

  • my Mastodon account @_elena@mastodon.social
  • my Friendica account @elena@opensocial.space
  • and my Lemmy account @elena@lemmy.world to see if anything happens

Thanks and happy to be here!

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[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

There's ~~Proton~~ Photon, an actively maintained desktop ui alternative for Lemmy.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I feel like there's too many things named Proton right now.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 16 points 3 months ago

It's actually called Photon.

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] kionite231@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They carry negative charge :(

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] kionite231@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh I remember it's Electron which carries negative charge. Neutron is well neutral :D

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago

🤓 Sci-tastic!

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ah! got that mixed up, thanks for the correction ^^

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 2 points 3 months ago

I know it's called Photon because of all the times I got it wrong. Easy mistake to make!

[–] ciferecaNinjo@fedia.io 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Photon is a strange beast. How do you install it?

It seems to only come as a docker container. That’s weird. I don’t have docker installed but docker should really be a choice.. not a sole means of installation. I see no deb file or tarball. It seems that it has taken a direction that makes it non-conducive to ever becoming part of the official Debian repos.

Then it seems as well that their official site “phtn.app” is a Cloudflare site -- which is a terrible sign. It shows that the devs are out of touch with digital rights, decentralisation, and privacy. That doesn’t in itself mean the app is bad but the tool is looking quite sketchy so far. Several red flags here.

(edit) I found a tarball on the releases page.

[–] Xylight@lemdro.id 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I think you've got the entire thought of photon wrong. Photon is not an "app" that you "install", it is essentially a website. The docker container includes a server runner, meant for instance owners to deploy photon on their own instance easily.

vger.app and alexandrite.app work the exact same way as photon for installation. You clone the app, build it, and run the server.

There is no team of "devs" who are out of touch with privacy, it's just me. This is a web app to access Lemmy in a different UI, and it'd be pretty stupid to dedicate time to tracking people when I've got homework to do.

I could make a subdomain for phtn.app that does not proxy through cloudflare if you'd like.

[–] ciferecaNinjo@fedia.io 1 points 3 months ago

Thanks for the insights. I was looking for a client not a server. So maybe this can’t help me. A server somewhat hints that it would be bandwidth heavy. I’m looking to escape the stock JS web client. At the same time, I am on a very limited uplink. To give an idea, I browse web with images disabled because they would suck my quota dry.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago

I've never installed it myself, I've only used it on the instances that offer it, such as my home instance at slrpnk.net.