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What defederating would mean:

  • We won't see beehaw.org posts/comments on other instances.

Pros:

  • There is less confusion, you can't respond to a beehaw.org user, thinking they will be able to see your response when in reality they cannot.

Cons:

  • We won't be able to see any beehaw.org comments/posts on other instances, so we will miss out on some comment threads and posts. It could be good to be able to see them and interact with the other users there even though beehaw.org users won't see any of our content.

Summary

Overall, I think it is better not to defederate, but simply unsubscribe from all of their communities (and as we no longer get posts from their instance, with time these will cease to appear on our 'front page').

beehaw.org users already can't see our posts/comments anywhere so it's not like defederating would change their experience in any way, so it wouldn't really be retaliation and would just limit the content available to lemmy.world users.

What do you think?

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[โ€“] chimay@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[โ€“] FantasticFox@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We see them on other instances, from that post:

Why do I see posts/comments from beehaw users on communities outside lemmy.world and beehaw.org?

That's because the "true" version of those posts is outside beehaw. So we get updates from those posts. And lemmy.world didn't defederate beehaw, so posts/comments from beehaw users can still come to versions hosted on lemmy.world.

The reverse is not true. Because beehaw defederate lemmy.world, any post/comment from a lemmy.world users will NOT be sent to the beehaw version of the post.

[โ€“] chimay@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

so, if I understand correctly, we wont see them on their own instance, but elsewhere

[โ€“] FantasticFox@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Yes. We won't see their own instance at all. What we see from beehaw atm is the outdated copies we have from prior to defederation.

[โ€“] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 8 points 1 year ago

Yes, however they won't be able to see your responses.