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UPDATE: Tom has now added the Undetermined language option to our instance. To make sure you can see the majority of Lemmy content from within your feddit.uk account, do the following:

Click your profile name - click settings - scroll down to the Languages box (not interface language) - hold down Ctrl (cmd on Mac) and select both English and Undetermined. On mobile browser: Tap the Languages box and make sure both are selected - scroll down and click save

You can also select any other languages which are beneficial to you.

If you don't see everything listed in the box, try refreshing the page.

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When viewing profile settings, you will see a box which says:

Warning: If you deselect Undetermined, you will not see most content.

On feddit.uk we currently have no selectable language option other than English. This means that (sometimes?) we will not see a lot of posts / comments on other instances / communities where the OP did not specifically select English before posting

See also: This Lemmy documentation under 'Setting up your profile'

• Languages: Select the languages that you speak to see only content in these languages. This is a new feature and many posts don't specify a language yet, so be sure to select "Undetermined" to see them.

Ideally, we need the ability to select English (or whatever language) AND undetermined - you can select multiple, as long as they are available.

When I view X community@instance from my lemmy.world account (with Undetermined language selected in profile settings), I can see all posts and comments. When I view the same community@instance from my feddit.uk account, there are missing posts and often 0 comments on everything. This needs addressing if possible!

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[–] juniper 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think it's anything to do with caching. It specifically says in settings and in the Lemmy documentation that if you don't select Undetermined, you won't see a lot of content. This isn't about posting or commenting it's about being able to see content. To be honest I am clueless about it all but it's not ideal if we can't see content on other instances / communities. I just felt it was worth bringing attention to in case it is an issue.

[–] tom 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ah ffs I completely misread that box

I read it as, if you select Undetermined you will not see most content, the double negative really threw me. So on the instance admin I selected our language as English which I'll change to undetermined now as it might explain a lot of the federation issue we've been having.

[–] TIN 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks Tom, all my subscribe requests at lemmy.ml have suddenly gone through as well so I'd say this has solved a bunch of things simultaneously!

[–] Senseibu 1 points 1 year ago

Lol I made that mistake too a couple times.

[–] juniper 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You can have both! I think you need to hold ctrl or alt or something and select English and Undetermined. I saw it in a post somewhere but I've lost it now. I agree the double negative is very confusing! Glad you've seen this post.

[–] tom 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeh you're right that's even less intuitive from a UX perspective Changed to both undetermined and English

[–] juniper 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe consider a sticky post so that everyone knows to go into their profile settings and select BOTH English and Undetermined by holding down Ctrl (command key on Mac)? Or sticky this one and I'll add an update to the bottom.

[–] tom 2 points 1 year ago

Perfect thanks yeh I've pinned to both the community and the instance!

[–] Senseibu 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like I say, I had the same issue and it’s resolved itself without any changes on my part. I did have to wait a while but it did work.

To add, this was prior to my issue posting on other instances which I have now also fixed by making my default language English globally.

[–] juniper 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm glad it's worked out for you but since it's mentioned in the documentation by Lemmy and it's literally written on the settings page, it seems to me like it's something that needs looking into.

[–] Senseibu 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed, I only want to see English content anyway though.

[–] juniper 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I totally understand what you're saying but 'Undetermined' does not equal Not English. There are many posts and comments written in English that we might not be seeing (hence my post) because English was not selected by the OP. 'Undetermined' is the default when posting, unless you manually select something else.

[–] Senseibu 1 points 1 year ago

Fair point, hadn’t thought of that.