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[–] Philosophosphorous@hexbear.net 46 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

here's the quick unsourced version: the US was developing the atom bomb, and planned (sometimes for real, others as disinfo) to build enough of them to carpet-nuke (this was before long range missiles and rockets) the entire Soviet Union, a plan that if completed would have been (one of?) the greatest genocide(s) in world history. several US atomic scientists, sought out contact with the USSR (independently, many unaware of the others) so that they could give them the information necessary to prevent this planned nuclear holocaust before America could build enough bombs.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 25 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I know you said unsourced, but, carpet bomb the entirety of the Soviet Union? I mean, extrapolating from the bombings of Japan I can definitely see this potential reality. Is this something that was on the books, or just the logical conclusion of the US having nukes and no one else coming close?

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 27 points 4 months ago

i thought it was mostly just the understanding that the only thing that would restrain the US would be a rival with parity. the only 'carpet bomb with nukes' i've heard about was Macarthur's idea for 'winning' Korea by bombing the north of China

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago

When America was.the only country with an atom bomb, they made some scary fucking plans. The cold war was by far the better option than America as the sole nuclear superpower. They were totally down to use em cause no one could retaliate at a similar scale.

[–] Philosophosphorous@hexbear.net 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

well there is this plan which was apparently intentional disinformation (idk enough to say whether the 'intentional disinformation' angle is american copium or not, i read somewhere on one of these articles that 'truman was shocked at the lack of nuclear arms stocks' for some of these plans):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_Totality

there is also Operation Dropshot which was considered and then abandoned:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Dropshot

another article about Dropshot, that also mentions Churchill's Operation Unthinkable:

https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/from-1945-49-the-us-and-uk-planned-to-bomb-russia-into-the-stone-age

also check out this page, especially War Plan Broiler:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_plans_(1945%E2%80%931950)

[–] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

From Plan Totality:

However, this plan was actually a disinformation ploy. After the two atomic bombings of Japan during August of 1945, the United States government did not have any nuclear weapons ready for use.

The disinformation part is what, that they didn't have enough nukes to genocide the Soviets, or that they weren't actually going to do it? Because this all implies they were going to if only they had nukes