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As for now, upvotes, downvotes and boosts are public on kbin (kbin.social)

submitted 1 year ago by aroom@kbin.social to c/kbinMeta@kbin.social

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On every thread or post, if you click on more and activity, you'll get the info.

I personally find this to be a good things, I've seen people using downvote way too easily. I like the idea that we need to be somehow accountable for those mechanism.

edit: It could be somehow improved to have an option to let this info only available between concerned users.

edit edit: I think that up/downvote info shouldn't be public, but kept private between the users involved. we need to address this privacy issue.

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[–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You have a pretty ironclad point. A company having access to years of that from any user would be a huge boon. Which is upsetting, because I viewed it as a helpful development in terms of group dynamics. Not for blacklisting purposes, which they also run the risk of turning into, but because, knowing your name is up there, you're more likely to mull over whether something is really actually bad enough to deserve the downvote and throwing them around willy-nilly is a great habit to break yourself of.

If you can't downvote something without being called out by name, you're stuck admitting it really didn't matter all that much, or hopefully explaining why you dislike something in words. Which does not happen nearly as often as it should. Forcing people to own up to them could curb the tendency to downvote things into oblivion

Thinking it over, I'm forced to admit the cons outweigh it, but I don't have to like it.

[–] IncognitoErgoSum@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

If that company can't serve ads to you or connect you to a profile of a real person, then I'm not sure it really matters.

[–] effingjoe@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A company having access to years of that from any user would be a huge boon.

This could be said for any bit of information you post publicly. You don't think they can learn the same info from your posts? I agree it is a problem but I don't think private up/down votes address it.

[–] Braggston08@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im doing ("did") a lot more of up/downvoting than writing longer replys to different topics.
It should be much easier for a company to scan a wide array of users on their voting behaviour than reading their posts one by one.

[–] effingjoe@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I highly doubt it would be a human reading the posts.

[–] Braggston08@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

maybe i didnt express correct what i mean...

Lets say after 5 years of kbin running and lots of user interactions.
-It should be really easy to pick out 50 or 100 (for example politcal) threads and filter all the up and downvotes. After that you could identify for most of the users which direction they are leaning.
-in the same scenario its much more work to read (or train a AI or bot or something)all the posts to interpret what point of view all these users have.

[–] effingjoe@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you underestimate how easy it is to determine the "mood" of a comment, but let me perhaps come at this from a different angle: even if kbin did as you request and made up/down votes hidden, there is nothing that says a server that is federated with kbin has to hide that information, as well.

It's probably best to just assume that any information you give in public will be public, and act accordingly.

[–] Braggston08@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh thats scary.
Im honestly not that deep into the AI theme so im not really able to recognise which of all this AI things are real and which are more wishfull thinking or marketing.

[–] effingjoe@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Just hop on over to chat GPT and ask it to write something in an angry tone, then ask it to write the same thing in a supportive tone.