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Fediverse vs Disinformation

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Pointing out, debunking, and spreading awareness about state- and company-sponsored astroturfing on Lemmy and elsewhere. This includes social media manipulation, propaganda, and disinformation campaigns, among others.

Propaganda and disinformation are a big problem on the internet, and the Fediverse is no exception.

What's the difference between misinformation and disinformation? The inadvertent spread of false information is misinformation. Disinformation is the intentional spread of falsehoods.

By equipping yourself with knowledge of current disinformation campaigns by state actors, corporations and their cheerleaders, you will be better able to identify, report and (hopefully) remove content matching known disinformation campaigns.


Community rules

Same as instance rules, plus:

  1. No disinformation
  2. Posts must be relevant to the topic of astroturfing, propaganda and/or disinformation

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[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. That's definitely a bot.

I do like how cheerful it is after being told to fuck off. Hitchhikers Guide's asshole cheerful doors are becoming reality, but with much more sinister purposes.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh, I don’t at all think it is a bot - I think it is a 4chan type edgelord who is cheerfully inserting “joking” fascist bullshit into the narrative. The whole point of Snyder’s piece is, the stuff is damaging whether it comes from bots or paid actors or people who have just picked up the habits of interacting like they do.

I actually have some more, somewhat more damaging (because they are more real-looking and thus harder to spot) examples: people doing the same thing of saying discouraging nonsense that favors one side particularly of the political discussion. I don’t think they are literally bots. Like Snyder says, it doesn’t really matter at the end of the day; the messaging and what impacts it has and how to react to it productively are the important things.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The only thing I've seen from fourchan in 10-15 years has been posted on Lemmy and before that in irc * Get a grip on yourself, I keep telling you just because people disagree with you don't make us bots, trolls, shills, paid or otherwise, and that language is just dehumanizing us so you don't have to confront your own dismissive arrogant self-assurededness. I have been there, probably for a couple of decades, in the day, and occasionally I go there, nowadays. If I'm doing my inner work, I don't stay long.

Enjoy your Sunday.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

For serious, I will bet you $200 that I can find 10 examples from the last 3 days of me talking bad about Democrats, or engaging with someone who is challenging my narrative without calling them a bot or troll or anything of the sort

You spun up this whole strawman that because I called a troll a troll, that must mean I call other people who are just disagreeing with me trolls, but you literally just made that up. Bet me that you are wrong.

The other person I said that to evaporated when I said it. Will you do the same? With or without admitting you were making up nonsense about me and cloaking in it a wrapping of self-righteous good faith about your conduct in the conversation?

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Neither. They evaporated because you're invested in ego, not searching what other alternatives you may find acceptable. Why would either of us waste any more precious leisure time, when for months that's what you've shown of yourself?

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

$100

And I’ll make it 12 times in 3 days

Final offer

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth -1 points 3 months ago

Spend your time and money on shadow work with a good therapist, and all of us, including and especially yourself, would be better served. That you consider this behavior better than maga, bots and trolls! Oh my! is pitifully absurd.