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Btw, bigotry does not need to be conscious or intentional or malicious to be real and cause harm, and you can be transphobic even when you're not trying to or believe you're are not

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[–] unmarketableplushie@pawb.social 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Oh, you saw that comment section too, huh?

Yeah it fucking sucks. I hope that it won't become the norm for Lemmy's 196.

[–] LeylaaLovee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Responding to you here because fuck that thread so much. I have no idea how someone can essentially say "Yeah I'd date a trans man if they didn't have a masculine body" and see no issues with it. Fine with dating someone pre-transition because they're who you want them to be and not who they want to be? It's insane what "allies" say.

They really need to take a long hard look in the mirror.

[–] conneru64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure that commenter cited that reason as why it would be a bad idea.

[–] sapient_cogbag@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It was fucking gross.

People just openly calling "the majority of" trans people oversensitive and having a victim complex. Blegh <.<

[–] Nikki@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

its crazy, because the trans people ive met are some of the strongest people i know, myself included

having to deal with the worst of people will do that to a community, and getting blamed for being oversensitive, just for wanting to exist just adds to that

[–] unmarketableplushie@pawb.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know, right?

Moss, if you're reading this, do better. You might not consider that kind of rhetoric transphobic, but you don't speak for all trans people here. And most of the trans members of this community who have spoken on this are talking about how uncomfortable it makes them feel to see this kind of shit being tolerated. For the love of god, do better.

[–] ohkoifishy@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah idk if it's just me but I'm getting weird vibes from the moderation here. First it's the forcing every title to have the word rule, which wasn't enforced in the original sub, and now this.

[–] LeylaaLovee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lemmy's 196 has been way more liberal than Reddit 196, and I'm really not a fan of it. Some of these comment sections are full of the "Not all men!" Crowd and it's annoying AF.

[–] ohkoifishy@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bsck when i used reddit i was told on 196 that I was being misogynistic when I, a trans man, talked about how I was receiving death threats irl after the Nashville shooting.

[–] LeylaaLovee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago

196 has always had its disappointing moments, I'm really sorry you had to go through that though. The amount of transphobia that case brought out of people was really hard to live with out in the Midwest.

[–] Sekoia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago

I think it's because 196 here is "bigger" in relative terms, so it shows up more in c/all, so you get more people from other places getting exposed.

[–] unmarketableplushie@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] LeylaaLovee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why do non-queer people have to ruin everything? :(

[–] unmarketableplushie@pawb.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ironically, the moderator who keeps insisting that it wasn't transphobic is actually trans.

[–] LeylaaLovee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago

I'm not surprised. I mean after seeing him clarify what he meant to say, I don't really think it's the end of the world. Even without that though, I wouldn't care about the comment if it wasn't posted by a mod afterwards. The thread that followed has so much fully transphobic shit in it and I find it disappointing that a mod would create the space for that.

196 was never the shining beacon of trans-understanding but migration seems to have made it messier.