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[โ€“] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 3 months ago (9 children)

It's such an insanely fucking low bar that he went to China and was like "yeah, this is fine. We don't need to be their enemy."

I won't overly stretch this comparison, but remember when Trump went to DPRK and met with Kim Jung Un and said something to the effect of "he's a nice guy. Great guy! We should work together." (Or whatever exactly. Not goggling it) and the insane fucking media went into overdrive meltdown mode. Actually, he said similar things about Xi and Putin.

I don't think these guys are comparable in many ways, but it is interesting how the fully "normal person" opinion of "yeah, I met the guy, he was fine towards me. I don't understand why we're doing all of this sanction shit. Maybe we should work on ending that." is held by most Americans and yet held by exactly zero corporate media shills and basically zero politicians who always make sure to adhere perfectly to the media narratives or suffer their wrath. Another thing Trump is right but for the wrong reason on... media and their narratives. They lie about him all the time, but about shit that doesn't matter (most of the time) or stuff he did that was good. Like the DPRK thing. And when they did that shit, pretty quickly it seems like he took the advice of the insane war hawks surrounding every president and never followed through on anything.

Some other insanely pro-war recent moments: the entire fucking media pretending that the US in Afghanistan was a good thing. Obviously their total lying about or ignoring the genocide being done to Palestinians. They even shat on Obama (reluctantly because they loved him) for making a nuclear deal with Iran. The right wing ran wild with it and the libs were like "yes this sounds good, but is Obama actually causing Iran to nuke LA in the future? Who could say!"

If Trump could do a compromise 2:1 liberal to conservative media purge, I'm not gonna say no. Van Jones and Tapper go in the same cage as Jesse Waters. Anderson Cooper, Maddow, and Gutfeld. These are the kinds of unhinged promises that might win my vote

[โ€“] Biggay@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago

This is why active diplomacy is so frowned upon by the natsec people. When you talk to people you learn that they are human, and that you should work together for common good and common cause.

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