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This is no honeymoon, the American "left" will never recover from the Harris/Walz combo; every major base of support (demographic/economic) is covered; Black woman with a jovial heartlandish white man standing behind her is the universal password for the legendary "competent American fascism" software update leftists have been prophesying.

They got this shit locked for at least eight years, Walz is suburbanite catnip and Harris has the identity libs eating out her hands, along with big tech, wallstreet, and the zionist lobby who are now methodically eliminating the last holdouts of the post-2016 nascent left movement

There is no credible avenue of leverage here, the libs can effectively respond to any leftist utterance with accusations of racism, misogyny, and purity testing and it will stick. Already we have most liberals being one rhetorical step away from defending Walz unleashing the National Guard on BLM protesters

There is no point in engaging with domestic national politics at this current time, the ball is firmly overseas

The only series of events that can undermine this new DNC paradigm is Israel blowing up the world and the US mobilizing to save it. Not even the collapse of Ukraine can dent it now, since that was "Biden's project"

Hate to say it, but the DNC won a firm generational victory

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[โ€“] happybadger@hexbear.net 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Will they better or worsen material conditions? Our organising capacity is tied to the system failing and liberals are incapable of addressing systemic failure. Even if Walz attempts to bring his Minnesota reforms to the federal level, the Supreme Court will nix them and the liberals will side with the institution over their own bills. The most unpopular 2020 primary candidate will fall apart just as Biden did when we called it. Liberals in 2028 will be feeling as electorally deflated as they were in 2024.

The democrats will always be bad which is where I break with DSA. There's no salvaging that party or operating within it or pulling the democrats to the left. Liberals are now just more honest about their politics.

[โ€“] queermunist@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago

Even if Walz attempts to bring his Minnesoata reforms to the federal level, the Supreme Court will nix them and the liberals will side with the institution over their own bills

This is an important point. The Supreme Court might be the only institution the Republicans control for a few cycles, they're going to use it to the fullest extent they can.