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[Transphobia Warning] Nutomic’s Stance on Transgender People (lemmy.ca)

submitted 3 months ago by Beaver@lemmy.ca to c/fediverselore@lemmy.ca

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[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I really mean it though. Authoritarianism is a trauma response to being abused as a child. Our brains when raised in an authoritarian household that punishes us through physical violence like spanking becomes much more likely to seek authority from positions of power in adulthood, and if there becomes a power vaccuum or a shift away from top down authority, we transform ourselves from the follower to the leader. Whether or not authoritarians victimize people with mental disorders and disabilities is immaterial. They victimize every single group they can marginalize because they were ultimately empty from the childhood trauma that they've glossed over and turned into a positive aspect of their upbringing. Anytime you hear "my parents spanked me, and I turned out find" you are hearing a twisted mind grappling with an extreme trauma and justifying the shitty person they've become because if they don't, it means they haven't survived their core trauma yet

[–] GatanKult@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

freudianism is pseudoscience, as is most discourse around "child traumas" (spanking = trauma? really? that's absurd concept creep). Just look at the recovered memory movement.

While it often took weeks or months, by all accounts, the therapists were remarkably successful at convincing patients that their minds had hidden horrible abuse memories.

because childhood memories remain in the liminal period of awareness, you can convince yourself that personality is built on childhood experiences. It's an insane tabula rasa and simply not true.

wants strong government = beaten as a child is a terrible pop-sci take, exactly the same as chuds saying all gay men were molested as children

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago

(spanking = trauma? really? that’s absurd concept creep).

Please stop. Anything can be traumatic. Two people can have the same experience; one receives trauma and another does not. You likely know people who have trauma from parental violence. This isn't rhetorical, the things you say affect people.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 months ago

Yes. Fruedianism is psuedoscience. That's why I'd never deal in it.
Saying childhood traumas don't shape us is fucking embarrassing when you're trying to present yourself as being in the know
Saying spanking isn't traumatic makes me think I don't even have to deal with the rest of what you say
Yes. Recovered memory is a bunch of bunked up bullshit. Again. I'd never deal in it. You really are focused on tearing down what I'm saying based on shit I never said
Yo, you think fucking cihldhood memories end when you start having more awareness? We're talking about the entire lived experience of being a child in an adults household. That shit ends when you leave for college. Again. You're really focused on saying I'm saying something I'm not saying, so actually, genuinely, fuck off.
Saying this is a pop-sci take is probably the only real thing you said in all this. And there's a difference between "wants a strong government" and "wants a dictator" and that's what I was addressing. I'll drop some links and let people coming across this decide which of us is basing what they're saying off current understandings of how brains work