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Salo Comics, I think?

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[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 52 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yeah, and I can't quite explain why it's so wrong. You're is technically a substitution for "you are" but it's never used like this. Maybe because it doesn't sound like the way it'd be spoken like it does normally?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 83 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I actually know this! Or at least, I half-remembered it barely well enough to find the Tom Scott video that taught me about it: there’dn’t’ve.

TL;DW: trying to use a clitic without an object to go with it creates a syntactic gap and has weird stress patterns. Or something like that; IDK I'm not a linguist.

[–] fionnafire@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Congrats on finding the clitic!

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago

I thought it was a myth

[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
  • "He was ten times the man you're"
  • "I'm greater than he's"
  • "Who do you think you're"
[–] huginn@feddit.it 2 points 1 month ago

Interestingly enough it's often pronounced like that just because common parlance lends itself to elisions.

[–] tiramichu@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It was weird to me too.

In fairness to the author, I can find a way to speak those two words aloud in a way that works, and sounds like something someone could genuinely say, but that requires a pretty specific stress and pitch.

You're already!

But the first time you read the words it's just not going to come out like that.

And that's the problem. As a writer you can't just put words on the page the same way you yourself might speak them, and expect people to read it that way. The spoken word does not translate perfectly to writing.

You need to have an awareness of how people are likely to parse the words on the page, and choose wording that doesn't cause people to trip or stumble, even if it isn't the exact phrasing you'd use in organic speech.

The comic fails on that at the final line.