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The unconfirmed allegation is raising concerns that the coffee chain is the latest corporation to cave to far-right attacks on LGBTQ people.

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[–] Col3814444@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude, in the comment just prior to that one, you just used the bible as a source of evidence to prove to us all that the bible is true. I have absolutely no doubts about who you think you are.

Since you seem to love proselytising to others I’m going to reverse UNO you dude.

Try reading: ‘The Demon Haunted World’ by Carl Sagan, or ‘The God Delusion’ by Richard Dawkins.

Surely someone so confident in your faith as you can stand up to one little book can’t you? What do you have to lose but the ability to learn and grow?

[–] 10A@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I grew up an atheist, surrounded by secular culture. While I haven't read either of those particular books, I've read so many other arguments against God over the years. Yes, my faith is strong, but no, I don't desire to subject myself to the temptation to deny God. I have no doubt the books offer thought-provoking and compelling arguments, as both of those authors are intelligent. And I have no doubt that some Christians have read them and offered critiques and rebuttals, as with any opinionated book. Also I have so many books that I've bought but haven't read yet, and I'm working through them slowly, but I keep buying more! I'm pretty frugal overall, but I definitely lack some self-control when it comes to buying books. So overall, no, I won't read those, but I honestly do appreciate your recommendations. Thank you.

[–] Col3814444@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I don't desire to subject myself to the temptation to deny God

Can’t ever be wrong if you never ask nor answer any questions eh?

[–] QHC@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would an all-knowing, all-powerful, all-loving deity create a universe with pointless suffering? Why do infants get cancer?

Why do terrible diseases like shingles and smallpox exist and why did it take humans to eradicate them? Do you think humanity was acting immorally when they created vaccines to combat these deadly viruses? Surely we were working contrary to god's will and that is a sin, right?

[–] 10A@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

You'd need infinite wisdom to understand every decision God makes. I certainly don't have that. But I do trust that God's in control, and He has His reasons. And I also know that we're given challenges and tests of faith in life. That's all part of the exercise of God's creation. It's a moral test to filter us.

Do you think humanity was acting immorally when they created vaccines to combat these deadly viruses?

That's an extremely interesting question, and I wish it wasn't buried in this thread about SBC.

I find it interesting to consider the question from a Darwinian perspective first. Through medicine, we humans have nearly eliminated our own survival of the fittest. We keep our weak alive long enough to reproduce and spread their genes. The result is that we're far weaker as a species than if we took a (decidedly unethical) approach of abandoning all medicine, allowing the infant mortality rate to skyrocket back to premodern norms, and allowing common ailments to destroy us. So inasmuch as morality and Darwinianism are both held their by advocates to be "laws", yes, medicine is unlawful in a sense. (That's twisted, I know! Just interesting to consider.)

From my own Christian perspective, no, God made us in His own image, and so just as He created us, the universe, and everything in it, we create things all the time too — including vaccines. God's in control, so anything we create is something we were allowed to create. Our actions are not always condoned, as we could use any invention for good or evil. God loves life, so vaccines saving lives are good. If He really wants to take someone out, He will.

Honestly I love that question. Thanks. I hope I elaborated enough.