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“Now is not the time for blame”, the Conservative activist and journalist Annunziata Rees-Mogg suggested to her colleagues at the start of the ‘Popular Conservatism’ conference on Tuesday.

It was not a suggestion which any of them seemed willing to countenance.

Instead, over the course of more than three hours, a series of unelected and recently de-elected Conservative politicians revealed a long list people and institutions they blamed for the fact that their own brand of ‘Popular Conservatism’ had inexplicably proved to be quite so unpopular.

For the former Conservative minister and current peer, Lord Frost, the answer was quite simple. His party had been compromised by radical leftists pushing a “flabby mishmash of sub-socialist ideas”.

“On virtually every issue we have followed the collectivist Zeitgeist leftwards”, Frost told the room.

His former colleague and surviving Conservative MP Suella Braverman wholeheartedly agreed, insisting via video link from another hard right political conference in Washington, that her party had made the fatal error of trying to “mimic the Labour party”, while refusing to ever mention real Conservative ideals.

“We didn’t mention immigration,” said Braverman, who had mentioned next to nothing else during her time as Home Secretary.”

“We didn’t want to talk about it, we didn’t want to look at it.”

Later, an audience member suggested that this leftist infiltration had extended right into the heart of the Conservative party’s own campaigning machine, warning that Lib Dem sleeper agents must now be expelled from the party’s headquarters.

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[–] jabjoe 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They also lost a lot of votes to LibDems too as voters were appalled by how far to right the Conservative had gone. Going further to right to chase the Reform/UKIP/Brexit party down the crazy rightwing hole will have lost them more still on the left & centre.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

not really. they lost some seats to the lib dems, but not the majority of their votes to the lib dems.

My long post on this issue is here :

https://lemmy.world/comment/10998014

Just for fun, let's choose a place at random :

https://www.bbc.com/news/election/2024/uk/constituencies/E14001387

North Devon results

Liberal Democrat, Ian Roome

votes 21,820

share 42.4%

share change +12.4

Conservative, Selaine Saxby

votes 15,076

share 29.3%

share change -27.3

Reform UK, Nigel James

votes 8,137

share 15.8%

share change +15.8

Labour, Nicky Edwards

votes 3,216

share 6.3%

share change -2.9

Lib dems gained 12%, Nazis gained 15% . Conservatives lost 27. The swing went further for Nazis than lib dems.

Conservatives do not want an ethnic minority running the country. If Kemi Badenoch becomes the next head of Conservatives, that party will most probably die, and we'll have Nigel Farage as the opposition lead.

We're fucked either way, because Farage might even become the leader of the Conservatives anyway, and they'll turn the Conservatives from the nasty party to the Nazi party anyway.

The only hope we have is that Keir Starmer can sort out britain before the next election.

I do not like conservatives, I won't want them or the nazis in charge

[–] jabjoe 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

My point is they can't have those voters who have gone Nazi, and those voters who left for the Lib dems. They can't win on the Nazi vote alone. The Nazi vote isn't really growing.

2015 - UKIP - 3,881,099 - 12.6%

2024 - Reform - 4,117,221 - 14.3%

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My point is they can’t have those voters who have gone Nazi, and those voters who left for the Lib dems. They can’t win on the Nazi vote alone

my brother in christ how do you think they stayed in power for all that time AND got the referendum to do brexit?

[–] jabjoe 1 points 4 months ago

Odd phrase and I've noticed your on Lemmy.world. You not a Brit?

Anyway, it fell apart didn't it. In 2019 Boris made it look like it could hold, but it absolutely couldn't. Though I would say a lot of that election was really anti-Corbyn.

2015 was pre-Nazification of the Conservatives. Before Brexit made them bat shit. 2024 was it all coming home.