I was browsing X on my phone searching for monero tags to catch up on news and it popped up on my feed no likes no shares. Real or fake? Wth is this antidarknet stuff? Something monero developers should be informed about or nah? anyone tried it?

I couldn't submit to archive.org the link here's what it said

Monero 0-day. The Black Marble Attack. How we did it

https://antidark.net/board/viewtopic.php?t=10

#monero #darknet #darkweb #moretocome

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[–] c0mmando@links.hackliberty.org 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

as if dealing with the feds wasn't enough, now we gotta deal with hacktivist bootlickers

[–] antidarknet@monero.town -2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Unless you're criminal you shouldn't be worried in any way. We support privacy (disclosure of bug) and agree darknet communities should exist but not when they break the law. No sane person can argue selling h**oin or someones bank account details is something noble and we should all be very upset about it when its disrupted. Unless you are one of them.

[–] blake@monero.town 6 points 3 months ago

hi antidarknet

cool site and nice job stresstesting XMR. look forward to seeing more of your projects in the future!

Makes me wonder about other vulnerabilities there could be - particularly regarding dark markets, xmr escrow services etc.

regarding your point

Unless you’re criminal you shouldn’t be worried in any way.

A criminal is someone defined by the state as having broken a law. Likewise a legal action is one which happens to coincide with a state's edict (law). but libertarian maximalists or anarchists wouldn't agree. hence why you were called a bootlicker.

whilst it's perfectly righteous to fight what you see as harmful, there's an argument for freedom, particularly in the case of drugs where it is usually the user who is the only one at risk of harm (if we follow the harm principle rather than legal/illegal). yes the drug trade can harm too - but that could also be because it is 'illegal' and has to take place in a non-ideal marketplace.

that being said, I have my own limits as to what is moral so I agree that you should pursue yours. but I will do things that are illegal, and I encourage you to do so too. perhaps one day using monero will be 'illegal'! </end philosophical sidebar>

[–] c0mmando@links.hackliberty.org 3 points 3 months ago

Unless you’re criminal you shouldn’t be worried in any way.

I'm not worried.

darknet communities should exist but not when they break the law.

You all just sound like a bunch of wanna-be cops to me.

No sane person can argue selling h**oin or someones bank account details is something noble and we should all be very upset about it when its disrupted.

Actually any sane person could argue that PROHIBITION does not work, and by attacking darknet marketplaces what you're doing is making it so drug addicts need to take even more risk buying random shit from street vendors instead of vetted dark web marketplace vendors.

I don't think any of us support your virtue signaling, go attack some child predators or something.

[–] antidote@monero.town 1 points 3 months ago

As @Blake said, "breaking the law" just means going outside of the boundaries set by your rulers. For anything outside the law, your rulers dislike it, but the majority of people could actually like it.

Take going to the bar with black people as an example. You might be in a place where it's disliked by the ruling political elite, or in a place and time where it's fine. This is the legal/illegal view.It's sometimes quite different from the moral view of things. The same applies to other topics like should women be allowed to drive cars, or should drug addicts be allowed a safe source of drugs free from the influence of "very bad people"?

Please don't let political elites set your personal morality. They are professional liars ( that's how they became political elites) and they have no morality to offer you.